Melclin
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Barring the suicide note...the above SCREAMS sepsis. Which could go hand in hand with the suicide attempt if he aspirated due to altered LOC from the meds.
It screams it from the roof tops. I was not expecting that temp. I was expecting it to be low. I thought, he's been lying here all night in the cold in an altered conscious state and his hands feel icy...hypothermia! Imagine my surprise.
Is it enough time to become septic from aspiration if he's taken the meds last night?
Also, when you have sepsis of a respiratory origin, do you worry about iatrogenic pulmonary oedema when you're talking about a fair amount of fluid. Our service is always so scared of iatrogenic APO, its so hard to tell if its warranted or not in some situations.
I'll swing at it, might be helping this patient acomplish his goal... so...
Okay so I think... so my instincts say... his breathing is probably the most immediat threat and because he's sating at 70 and shallow respirations his tidal volume is through the floor so... cpap? or maybe RSI?
Minimal on scene time and I would opt for the 40min heli transport since I'm concerned that because he's having trouble breathing going higher into the atmosphere which would have less atmospheric pressure may reduce the workload of his labored breathing and help him breath better since both CPAP and Intubation would deliver 100% O2...
You don't want to trial some PPV first? I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind less atopheric pressure making it easier to breath.
You said all his meds are present and accounted for on his bedside table. Are the actual meds there, or just the empty bottles???? How about a pill count of the bottles to narrow down what he took too much of, if anything.
Yep, good thought. There is certainly a few left of each med in the packets available. The original boxes are nowhere to be found so it is impossible to say when or how many in todal were prescribed.
This and the Reglan are probably more important than the other meds here...
I would say so.
Right so I tried to follow up on this bloke today to give you all some better answers but unfortunately he got moved to a different hospital so I have a lot less info than I'd like.
Anyway, I just got a job. I'll post a little more in an hour or so.