14 Day Boot Camp, ADHD, and A Good Program

DevilDuckie said:
A 14 Day EMT Course?

:ph34r:

Why bother? If you're going to short cut your way through education, how can we trust you won't do that with patient care?
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The 6 month basic course is the same number of hours as the 2 week. Only difference is how fast completed. Neither provides any medical education only first aid skills training.
 
WarDance said:
I don't deny that at all. But knowing everything about the anatomy of the heart doesn't mean that you're going to do an awesome job treating someone having an MI.
I'm currently finishing up my general biology requirements and talk about a god awful course! If I hear anything else about a paramecium I might jump out of a window. I tested out of the 1st semester of biology so I'm in shock at this 100 level course!
Next year I'm taking anatomy, chemistry and physics all at the same time. Now that's going to be a nightmare.
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Yes that will be a nightmare. I tried not to take more than 2 sciences at a time as they are simply full time requirements.
 
bstone said:
Wrong is wrong. Can't help ya.
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Cool so with no new education provided I can not accept that I am wrong.

The basic course gives such a brief overview of medicine that there is no way to call it medical education. It focuses on monkey see monkey do skills to accomplish what many learned in boy scout first aid classes. Yes as I have said before you do have exceptions that have prior medical education but they did not gain anything beyond skills practice in the basic course.
 
WarDance said:
I don't deny that at all. But knowing everything about the anatomy of the heart doesn't mean that you're going to do an awesome job treating someone having an MI.
I'm currently finishing up my general biology requirements and talk about a god awful course! If I hear anything else about a paramecium I might jump out of a window. I tested out of the 1st semester of biology so I'm in shock at this 100 level course!
Next year I'm taking anatomy, chemistry and physics all at the same time. Now that's going to be a nightmare.
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If you are planning to go to med school, sophmore level anatomy, chemistry, and physics will be a vacation.

especially compared to a semester of: Histology II, physiology I, biochemistry III, neuro anatomy, genetics II, epidemiology, and immunology. All with labs of course.
 
Veneficus said:
If you are planning to go to med school, sophmore level anatomy, chemistry, and physics will be a vacation.

especially compared to a semester of: Histology II, physiology I, biochemistry III, neuro anatomy, genetics II, epidemiology, and immunology. All with labs of course.
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None of those are required for entry in med school. Only gen chem with lab, orgo chem with lab, physics with lab and bio with lab (a year of each). Those courses you describe are typically taught IN medschool. Yes, in med school (the first 2 years) you go into the library at the way beginning and come out 2 years later fatter, insaner, etc but hopefully you passed. Then you get to learn it again for Step 1. Yippie!
 
bstone said:
None of those are required for entry in med school. Only gen chem with lab, orgo chem with lab, physics with lab and bio with lab (a year of each). Those courses you describe are typically taught IN medschool. Yes, in med school (the first 2 years) you go into the library at the way beginning and come out 2 years later fatter, insaner, etc but hopefully you passed. Then you get to learn it again for Step 1. Yippie!
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It kind of depends on where you want to go to school. Some of those things are required or strongly recommended at some schools. Some of those other classes I haven't seen as being required for any school.

Also my schedule next year won't really be a vacation because those aren't the only classes I will take. I'm a psychology major and in the honors program so I have requirements to fill for those things on top of those science courses.
 
bstone said:
None of those are required for entry in med school.
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Not really a relevant statement, since much of that is required to finish your pre-med degree, regardless of med school entry requirements. The number of incoming MSI's without bachelor degrees is so microscopic as to be statistically insignificant.

And you are wrong about medic417 being wrong. But your erroneous opinion might at least deserve consideration if you could articulate it. Are you sure you don't want to explain?
 
bstone said:
None of those are required for entry in med school. Only gen chem with lab, orgo chem with lab, physics with lab and bio with lab (a year of each). Those courses you describe are typically taught IN medschool. Yes, in med school (the first 2 years) you go into the library at the way beginning and come out 2 years later fatter, insaner, etc but hopefully you passed. Then you get to learn it again for Step 1. Yippie!
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ummm, being in med school, i was trying to point out that gen chm, anatomy, and physics would be an easy course load to somebody who tries to take one science at a time.
 
I have to agree with Medic417 90% of the EMT-B class is basic first aid. You learn there are different parts to the body but you don't learn what they do, you learn there are lots of meds out there but you don't learn what the individual drugs do for the body, you learn to take vital signs are are told they need to be between such and such number and another number otherwise call for a medic, you learn to always call for a medic to the point where so many EMTs are afraid of doing their own assessment.
 
spisco85 said:
I have to agree with Medic417 90% of the EMT-B class is basic first aid. You learn there are different parts to the body but you don't learn what they do, you learn there are lots of meds out there but you don't learn what the individual drugs do for the body, you learn to take vital signs are are told they need to be between such and such number and another number otherwise call for a medic, you learn to always call for a medic to the point where so many EMTs are afraid of doing their own assessment.
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As they should as they have no medical education. It is impossible to assess what you have no or little knowledge of. Other than the small percentage of basics with medical education from other fields this is the basic facts.
 
An EMT should have no medical education, so that's judging the whole lot, rather than person by person?

Has the EMT no place in EMS at all? Would you suggest that everyone, wait, for your medic staffed ambulance, and receive no care at all, prior to your arrival.. no matter what your time till arrival will be?
 
I originally was not going to post on this thread because I do not broadcast that I am ADHD. I am a twenty year old Male ADHD guy and I happen to think that an accelerated program is not the best thing for people with this problem to go through I would suggest you do exactly like Sasha suggested and wait for a real program and start prepping your self for medic school.
 
DevilDuckie said:
Has the EMT no place in EMS at all? Would you suggest that everyone, wait, for your medic staffed ambulance, and receive no care at all, prior to your arrival.. no matter what your time till arrival will be?
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The ideal use of the EMT is as a first responder, to provide essential BLS until the arrival of an ambulance, which should always be staffed by paramedics. There are plenty more first responder jobs than there are ambulance jobs, so yes, there is plenty of place for the EMT in EMS. It's just not on a 911 ambulance.
 
I think 4 of the six people at my station have ADD. We walk around and open cabinets and the fridges over and over again if we are not out training or running calls. So I think you will fit in fine. It all seems to go away on calls.
 
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AJ Hidell said:
The ideal use of the EMT is as a first responder, to provide essential BLS until the arrival of an ambulance, which should always be staffed by paramedics. There are plenty more first responder jobs than there are ambulance jobs, so yes, there is plenty of place for the EMT in EMS. It's just not on a 911 ambulance.
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i didn't realize that 911 companys are sending out bls ambulances. i've never heard of that. all of our 911 trucks in the dfw area(don't really know about the rest of the country) always have at least 1 medic and 1 basic. all of the area fire department 911 ambulances are staffed with 2 medics.
 
amberdt03 said:
i didn't realize that 911 companys are sending out bls ambulances. i've never heard of that. all of our 911 trucks in the dfw area(don't really know about the rest of the country) always have at least 1 medic and 1 basic. all of the area fire department 911 ambulances are staffed with 2 medics.
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I didn't say anything about BLS ambulances. I was talking about EMTs on a 911 ambulance. I am quite familiar with DFW. Fort Worth, and now Arlington too, unfortunately (since AMR came in), have EMTs on their 911 ambulances, as do a couple of the surrounding rural counties. I oppose this use of EMTs.
 
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