I'm not disagreeing with aspects of that, but that is a discussion more appropriate for other places than here. Also, while tangentially related to the incident, that history alone is not enough to convict based solely upon that and a claim. Is it enough to question and warrant an investigation? Absolutely.
That’s exactly the thing though: it’s exactly the time for that conversation. If ice really is beyond the law, how are we supposed to interact with them as a profession?
Your inability to read, interpret, and participate in conversation is truly alarming.
Not as alarming as your justifications for behaviors like this:
What part of "more appropriate for other places than here" was I unclear about? Take that discussion to Reddit, X, FB or other social media platforms of your choice.
I’m not going to participate in your attempts to move the goalposts.
As apposed to all the morally, socially, and legal conduct by EMS?
I know, it’s hard to have your opinion challenged when it pertains to EMS and our operations with the secret police. Its ok to discuss what’s not OK. You can overcome your fears, ffemt. You just have to acknowledge that there’s a chance you might be entirely incorrect.
Unlike you, I fully realize and accept I may be wrong...I just refuse to let my biases interfere with objectivity.
Equating LE in 2025 to Slavery in the 1850s is just showing how disconnected you are. Please, read something other that Anarchist Weekly.
Of course, not. That would require you to question Dear Leader. And dear leader should never be questioned. Clearly, the organizational process and oversight that results in these brave ice officers kidnapping the victim of their terrible driving, who happens to be an American citizen, is one that she never get any oversight from anyone because it is our perfect.
Every time you post, you remove that level of professionalism you should be acting under. Do you treat LE any different? Would you?
Law-enforcement was far less powerful in the 1850s, the citizens of Boston famously tarred and feathered several slave catchers. President Buchanan was forced to send federal troops and marines to move an abducted slave back into slavery, the resulting riots cost several lives. Boston actually has a very moving memorial to these men, who are sometimes considered to be the first casualties of the Civil War.
I just don’t think you’re capable of moving past where you are, which is using objectivity as a shield for your own discomfort and lack of confidence, it taking an actual principled stand.
Wow.
Would you tolerate one of your crews busting an illegal U-turn, ramming another motorist, threatening them, ripping them out of their vehicle and kidnapping them? Would you tolerate that from your local law-enforcement departments? Do you want that in your community?
After ice, I think law-enforcement will be extremely fortunate if they are given any respect whatsoever. Departments with any foresight whatsoever will be sprinting away from any cooperation with ice and standing with their communities against the depravity of ice. Remember, local law-enforcement lives in our communities. Torturing their own reputations by assisting with the indefensible is a really shortsighted plan.