working as an EMT in a skirt

[emt-mike]

before replying people should read the thread, so that they know where the conversation is, instead of repeating the same sentiments

UPDATE
she will wear pants underneath the skirt
she already has a job secured she just needs to find someplace to get trained as an EMT

 

[JPINFV]

i would say not to....becuase if your rear end gets seen.....other might have "medical promblems"

Want to know how I know you haven't read this thread?


Edit: And... props to EMT-Mike for sniping my post...

 

[crazycajun]

It is a religious/church thing. Personally I would not have a problem with just wearing the pants, but there are others whom I must consider. No, there is no scripture that says you must only wear skirts. It has to do with modesty more than anything, and what I've been hearing from all you wonderful people is that you consider just the EMS pants modest. So I will be checking into that.
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I guess this is why I am so confused. If it is not written in scripture then it is not God's word or belief. The question then arises to whom do you worship God or the people in the church? Remember if you believe that judgment day will come to you the only one you will answer to is God.

 

[abckidsmom]

I guess this is why I am so confused. If it is not written in scripture then it is not God's word or belief. The question then arises to whom do you worship God or the people in the church? Remember if you believe that judgment day will come to you the only one you will answer to is God.

It can be really hard to buck a conservative church like this. I went to nursing school with a Mennonite girl who had to stand in front of her church and say for all time that she had no interest in marriage or children in order for the elders to allow her to go to nursing school. She wasn't allowed to work as an income-earning nurse after graduation because then she wouldn't be "covered" by her father any more. She ended up being a missionary nurse in Belize.

All that to say, the social pressure is strong, and hard to buck, even if you do believe it is only God that you'll be facing on the day of judgement.

 

[samiam]

My problem is that I find it a very fine line between making the spark yourself vs having someone else make it for you? Which is more important, the act itself or the underlying intent?

http://www.teshuvah.com/articles/shabbat/sabbath1.htm

Have a look at this.... under requirements. I am reformed so personally I do not follow this so I can only give basic input. MY interpretation is that it is ok to have someone else do something for you as long as they are not in your home..not a employee/servant .. children spouses etc... I know for sure that some orthodox Jews will have others drive them somewhere is absolutely necesscary.

 

[18G]

Religion is crazy which is why I do not practice one.

I believe in Jesus Christ and his laws and ways are what I try to practice. Man made religious rules and laws mean nothing to me. It's what JC expects and what you as an individual believe to be right.

As already said, in the end you answer for who you follow and what you do. Allowing someone else to alter your life and dreams is a bit much.

 

[EMSrush]

The chief offered to have a "turnout skirt" made but I think she declined.

Seriously??? LOL!

 

[addictedforever]

I guess this is why I am so confused. If it is not written in scripture then it is not God's word or belief. The question then arises to whom do you worship God or the people in the church? Remember if you believe that judgment day will come to you the only one you will answer to is God.

I know, but the church is under the authority of God. It's sorta like the reason you don't just go and ignore all the laws of the land. No, I wouldn't get thrown in jail if I went against my church, but it would take some serious doing on my part to do that.

It can be really hard to buck a conservative church like this. I went to nursing school with a Mennonite girl who had to stand in front of her church and say for all time that she had no interest in marriage or children in order for the elders to allow her to go to nursing school. She wasn't allowed to work as an income-earning nurse after graduation because then she wouldn't be "covered" by her father any more. She ended up being a missionary nurse in Belize.

All that to say, the social pressure is strong, and hard to buck, even if you do believe it is only God that you'll be facing on the day of judgement.

Okay, that's intense about that girl! We have several people in nursing school currently and our church does not have a problem with it. Then again they don't have to wear pants for that. And my parents are supportive of my dreams, it's just my church.

 

[Nerd13]

In reference to the form fitting pants I don't think you'll have a problem. I wear Elbeco women's EMS pants and they aren't form fitting at all. Everybody is shaped differently but I think if you tried some different brands on you would have no trouble finding some that are suitably loose for your needs. I'm having a hard time understanding why you're having such a hard time finding somewhere to do training. Here the training is completely unrelated to where you're going to work so they don't really care. The only foreseeable problem I can imagine would be clinical dress uniform and I would think that you could get out of that being a problem by simply stating that it's a religious belief. I'd keep trying to find different agencies to train at until you can find one that will work with you. If all else fails check into online programs! Not the most ideal way to go about it but given your circumstances it's better than nothing.

 

[Sasha]

Man made religious rules and laws mean nothing to me.

Dude all religious laws/rules are man made.

 

[HotelCo]

Dude all religious laws/rules are man made.

Just like all religions.


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[HotelCo]

I know, but the church is under the authority of God. It's sorta like the reason you don't just go and ignore all the laws of the land. No, I wouldn't get thrown in jail if I went against my church, but it would take some serious doing on my part to do that.



Okay, that's intense about that girl! We have several people in nursing school currently and our church does not have a problem with it. Then again they don't have to wear pants for that. And my parents are supportive of my dreams, it's just my church.

Find a different church.

Personally, I'm a member of The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

http://www.venganza.org/


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[addictedforever]

In reference to the form fitting pants I don't think you'll have a problem. I wear Elbeco women's EMS pants and they aren't form fitting at all. Everybody is shaped differently but I think if you tried some different brands on you would have no trouble finding some that are suitably loose for your needs. I'm having a hard time understanding why you're having such a hard time finding somewhere to do training. Here the training is completely unrelated to where you're going to work so they don't really care. The only foreseeable problem I can imagine would be clinical dress uniform and I would think that you could get out of that being a problem by simply stating that it's a religious belief. I'd keep trying to find different agencies to train at until you can find one that will work with you. If all else fails check into online programs! Not the most ideal way to go about it but given your circumstances it's better than nothing.

Hey thanks for the tip on a brand to check out! It was an issue with the clinical dress, and I told them, but they still had issues. Not sure why, but that's what they said. I don't really want to do it online, but I might if I can find a reputable place.

 

[Nerd13]

Hey thanks for the tip on a brand to check out! It was an issue with the clinical dress, and I told them, but they still had issues. Not sure why, but that's what they said. I don't really want to do it online, but I might if I can find a reputable place.

Just keep trying. You've had a lot of hurdles and you managed to get the hardest one (somewhere to actually work) out of the way. Eventually you'll find somewhere to train, just don't give up on it!

 

[addictedforever]

Just keep trying. You've had a lot of hurdles and you managed to get the hardest one (somewhere to actually work) out of the way. Eventually you'll find somewhere to train, just don't give up on it!

Thanks Nerd! I'm not giving up!

 

[phideux]

Do you really think God cares what clothes you wear? Or are you just trying to conform to your current pastors interpretation of a passage that has been interpreted and re-interpreted repeatedly over the centuries?
All the companies I have seen have uniform standards, and I don't see that skirt/pants thing flying, plus it just looks ridiculous/unprofessional. If you are going to join a service that is already in place you need to conform to their uniform standards. Not try to make them conform to yours.

 

[rwik123]

Do you really think God cares what clothes you wear? Or are you just trying to conform to your current pastors interpretation of a passage that has been interpreted and re-interpreted repeatedly over the centuries?
All the companies I have seen have uniform standards, and I don't see that skirt/pants thing flying, plus it just looks ridiculous/unprofessional. If you are going to join a service that is already in place you need to conform to their uniform standards. Not try to make them conform to yours.

Let's not go on any personal attacks on people's choices. She's already explained that it's more of a modesty choice than it being "god's will"

 

[addictedforever]

Do you really think God cares what clothes you wear? Or are you just trying to conform to your current pastors interpretation of a passage that has been interpreted and re-interpreted repeatedly over the centuries?
All the companies I have seen have uniform standards, and I don't see that skirt/pants thing flying, plus it just looks ridiculous/unprofessional. If you are going to join a service that is already in place you need to conform to their uniform standards. Not try to make them conform to yours.

Apparently, my chief doesn't agree with you on it looking unprofessional, since he approved the uniform.

Let's not go on any personal attacks on people's choices. She's already explained that it's more of a modesty choice than it being "god's will"

Thank-you rwik, at least someone's been paying attention.

 

[phideux]

It wasn't my intention to make it personal, sorry if it came off that way.:blush:

 

[addictedforever]

It wasn't my intention to make it personal, sorry if it came off that way.:blush:

No offense taken. It's all good.