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Yep. That's essentially what happened.Law enforcement is refusing to place him in protective custody? easy answer. request an EMS supervisor to respond to the scene, as well as a law enforcement supervisor to the scene.
PD supervisor still refuses? ok, can i have your name and badge number please? and of the officer who initially refused? I will need it so when the lawsuit gets filed, they can be personally named in the wrongful death suit.
EMS supervisor, how do you want me to handle this? are you comfortable with obtaining a refusal? if not tell me exactly what you want me to do, because this is a bad situation and I don't want it falling back on me. And if he saying nothing else to do, than mr overdose person, "can you sign here please? this is a bad idea, and it's likely you need help, but I can't force you to go. hey family members? can you sign here that he is making this really bad decision on his own free will, and that I think it's a bad decision?"
If law enforcement is failing to do their job, and the EMS supervisor says there is nothing else to do, than you've exhausted your options, and people have the right to make stupid decisions regarding their healthcare.
This was in a rural area, where the PD is unstaffed after 11pm (and it was 11:01pm, literally) so you can imagine how well this went over. The officer tried to call his chief, but he wasn't answering.
I called medical control to get everything on a recorded line. Doctor agreed, he needed protective custody.
I called my supervisor and his exact words were "are you sh***ing me? This is why we need that law passed."
We obtained a refusal, I documented the heck out of it, had the refusing officer sign as a witness to the patient's refusal, got his name and badge number, and I wrote an incident report.