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I received a drunk in public, got it reduced to 1 count of disturbing the peace which is still a misdemeanor. I did not loose my license, would never drink and drive, and rarely drinks. (except for the one weekend I was off). I do not have a probation deal or anything. Would this affect my ADL (ambulance drivers license) in California? :blink:

this is soo embarrassing:sad: but I have to cowboy up and throw it out there
 
Hm, I would contact your employer and see what they have to say, better you let them know than the DMV, or Court System.

I would call the CA DMV and your employer to see what circumstances are revolved around the charge. I think you should be okay, since it was brought down to a disturbing the peace. A drunk in Public would be a bit harder to defend, but I personally think you should be okay, maybe a slap on the wrist.

The only true way to know for sure is to call and find out, you should even call NREMT, If I recall your obligated to report any charges, convictions etc when you receive them.

Sh** happens, no more to it....

Good Luck
 
Sounds like you need to see if the burger shack is hiring. Really as you are held to a higher standard do not be shocked if you end up unemployed and even decertified.
 
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really over a misdemeanor?
 
8jimi8 said:
really over a misdemeanor?
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I suppose it might be a good idea to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Maybe that's what he was getting at?
 
Hmmm...

the DMV isn't involved in a misdemeanor criminal charge of disturbing the peace so unless your right to drive was involved in your sentencing it shouldn't have any affect on your ADL or in your ability to get one.

As for losing your job, unless you tell your employer it really shouldn't matter unless they have a written policy requiring employees to notify the company of any arrests/convictions in which case you should do what's required of you.

The NREMT is only concerned with felony convictions, per their own website:"An individual convicted of a felony or any other crime directly related to public health or the provision of emergency medical service, including DUI, will be reviewed for eligibility for certification and recertification under policies outlined in the NREMT's Felony Policy."

You can't be "de-certified" over a disturbing the peace conviction in Los Angeles County, I would imagine that other counties in California would have a similar policy as this one; Reference: EMS Prehospital Care Policy Manual Ref. No. 220, Health and Safety Code section 1798.200.

Check the website of your county's DHS to be sure.

You could lose your job.

Still a dumb thing to do, take your punishment, learn from it and move on.
 
John E said:
the DMV isn't involved in a misdemeanor criminal charge of disturbing the peace so unless your right to drive was involved in your sentencing it shouldn't have any affect on your ADL or in your ability to get one.

As for losing your job, unless you tell your employer it really shouldn't matter unless they have a written policy requiring employees to notify the company of any arrests/convictions in which case you should do what's required of you.

The NREMT is only concerned with felony convictions, per their own website:"An individual convicted of a felony or any other crime directly related to public health or the provision of emergency medical service, including DUI, will be reviewed for eligibility for certification and recertification under policies outlined in the NREMT's Felony Policy."

You can't be "de-certified" over a disturbing the peace conviction in Los Angeles County, I would imagine that other counties in California would have a similar policy as this one; Reference: EMS Prehospital Care Policy Manual Ref. No. 220, Health and Safety Code section 1798.200.

Check the website of your county's DHS to be sure.

You could lose your job.

Still a dumb thing to do, take your punishment, learn from it and move on.
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I agree with John. Just take your licks and press on. It all depends on your agency. Do you remember when you filled out your application if it asked you if you were convicted of a felony or misdemeanor? Some places will ask people that question when you apply.
 
Personally I think "drunk in public" is one of the dumbest charges I've ever heard. What did you do? Light up a bonfire and dance around it in the middle of downtown square?
 
8jimi8 said:
really over a misdemeanor?
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Everything you do as an emergency medical technician reflects on your profession as a whole. There have been many times when I could've went out
in public and openly partied or joined along in activities such as raising hell in a car at 100 mph (which is stupid for more reasons than just how it makes you appear professionally). The fact is, the general public is going to look at you and make the assumption that this is how all EMT's must act. Therefore, it is your privelege and your duty to show them that EMT's are law-abiding citizens who are respectful, courteous, and practitioners of humility. EMS can be VERY political at times, and things like this can come back to bite you in the @$$. Check your state's individual policies on misdemeanors and EMS Licensure / DMV endorsements.

That being said, everyone makes mistakes. I guess the question really is, knowing what you now know, will you do this again? If the answer is "no", let the state board, employer, or other governing body know this. Be sincere, it pays off in more ways than you can imagine.
 
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Here in Canada you would not lose your job. Here in Canada we have police members getting convicted of impaired driving and they are still LEO's. As well a Paramedic in Alberta was convicted of possessing child porn and he can still practice only in an industrial setting where he has no contact with minors (industrial where a EMT-P can make between 500 to 1000 a day). I was told by a paramedic working air medevac that there are more jobs for EMT-P's than there are medics. So people in Alberta who are EMR's and EMT's go back to school to become a EMT-P and get these jobs.
 
medicRob said:
Everything you do as an emergency medical technician reflects on your profession as a whole. There have been many times when I could've went out
in public and openly partied or joined along in activities such as raising hell in a car at 100 mph (which is stupid for more reasons than just how it makes you appear professionally). The fact is, the general public is going to look at you and make the assumption that this is how all EMT's must act. Therefore, it is your privelege and your duty to show them that EMT's are law-abiding citizens who are respectful, courteous, and practitioners of humility. EMS can be VERY political at times, and things like this can come back to bite you in the @$$. Check your state's individual policies on misdemeanors and EMS Licensure / DMV endorsements.

That being said, everyone makes mistakes. I guess the question really is, knowing what you now know, will you do this again? If the answer is "no", let the state board, employer, or other governing body know this. Be sincere, it pays off in more ways than you can imagine.
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Very well put. As EMT's were supposed to be professional, im sure we can mostly if not all agree that being in the medical field as Emt-B, Emt-P and even FF/Medics we have to make a lot of sacrifices. Yes most of us like to party go out and have a good time knock back a few drinks, but if you want to be in this line of work you need to be a little more mature and more responsible.
 
clibb said:
Personally I think "drunk in public" is one of the dumbest charges I've ever heard. What did you do? Light up a bonfire and dance around it in the middle of downtown square?
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:unsure:Cant have, otherwise he'd have been charged with arson, poss. malicious destruction of property, and being a complete dumbass.
 
Thanks for the advice. Well, there are plenty of EMTs with DUIs, so I'm guessing I wont lose my EMT license. I highly doubt I'll get fired as well, this is not a very despicable charge. I am able to get this expunged in probably less than 6 months due to my immaculate record and prof of plenty of school that I am attending.

I was just wondering about how I should go about this. My lawyer stated that my employer would probably never find out due to the fact that they have to do a background investigation to even know. This does not effect my DMV records at all.

Drunk in public charges are stupid and over the top. It is a non threatening charge and the worst part was I was in front of the house with plenty of people willing to just take me back inside. Lesson learned though, note to all other personnel, really watch it when you go out. There is absolutely no tolerance on the streets any more.
 
There is no way I would ever do something like this again as well. Trust me, this was a life changing experience.
 
Hey, at least you didnt play a prank on an EMT student using a dead patient as a prop. I'm still shaking my head over that one.

Edit: and no it wasnt me, a post I read on here earlier.
 
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medicRob said:
Everything you do as an emergency medical technician reflects on your profession as a whole. There have been many times when I could've went out
in public and openly partied or joined along in activities such as raising hell in a car at 100 mph (which is stupid for more reasons than just how it makes you appear professionally). The fact is, the general public is going to look at you and make the assumption that this is how all EMT's must act. Therefore, it is your privelege and your duty to show them that EMT's are law-abiding citizens who are respectful, courteous, and practitioners of humility. EMS can be VERY political at times, and things like this can come back to bite you in the @$$. Check your state's individual policies on misdemeanors and EMS Licensure / DMV endorsements.
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Unless you are going out in uniform or live in a tiny community, how is the "general public" even going to know that you're an EMT? When I see people out drinking/being retarded I A) don't have any clue what their profession is and B) wouldn't make the assumption that if Lawyer Libby gets drunk in public, all lawyers do.
 
Aerin-Sol said:
Unless you are going out in uniform or live in a tiny community, how is the "general public" even going to know that you're an EMT? When I see people out drinking/being retarded I A) don't have any clue what their profession is and B) wouldn't make the assumption that if Lawyer Libby gets drunk in public, all lawyers do.
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In small towns word travels.
 
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