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Just wondering what you all use for your trauma education. I have been told there was lots of issues with ITLS, and some were using PHTLS,BTLS, and more. So, question is what do you use ?
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Amberlamps916
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My medic school uses Itls.
DrankTheKoolaid
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Use and teach PHTLS. ITLS is based on BTLS and seemingly more WHAT to do and PHTLS is based on ATLS and teaches why you would do it
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mycrofft
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And that tells the rest of us a lot.
Is there a glossary somewhere about these acronyms?
Is there a glossary somewhere about these acronyms?
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What upsets me is the ITLS does't have very many offerings. I am even willing to do the online program and then the completer course, but there are no offerings for many months in my area. It even looks like there are limited offerings around the whole country.
And that tells the rest of us a lot.
Is there a glossary somewhere about these acronyms?
Sorry, was talking about Advanced trauma life support. I'm a fan. Only two days, but holy crap is it worth it.
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Amberlamps916
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Is Atls offered in California?
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i've taken ATLS... good class, but most of the information goes way beyond the paramedics scope of practice...
Not to mention it has a ~$500 price tag...
I'd look into TNATC; focuses more on prehospital setting --> http://www.emtlife.com/www.astna.org http://www.astna.org
also, if you take ATLS or TNATC all you get out of it is the knowledge.. you cannot be "certified" as a paramedic in either of these. (something that doesn't matter to me, but may matter to others)
Not to mention it has a ~$500 price tag...
I'd look into TNATC; focuses more on prehospital setting --> http://www.emtlife.com/www.astna.org http://www.astna.org
also, if you take ATLS or TNATC all you get out of it is the knowledge.. you cannot be "certified" as a paramedic in either of these. (something that doesn't matter to me, but may matter to others)
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Not to mention it has a ~$500 price tag......[/QUOTE]
On price you got off easy if you only paid $500
As for the rest, I would just like to point out for the veiwing audience, the full name of the course is:
"Advanced Trauma Life Support for Doctors"
Anjel
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We do PHTLS
Amberlamps916
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More education is a bonus.
DrankTheKoolaid
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The company I work for received grant funding to do a ITLS course for all the employees and interested VFD member in the area. Ill let you know what i think after taking it. Will be able to truely compare the 2 after that.
Amberlamps916
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What aspects did you struggle with the most? For my class, Itls is the first certification course we take, 3 months into the program.
reconciling what they wanted me to say I would do with what I would really do.
Amberlamps916
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That makes sense.
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Phtls
We utilize PHTLS at my organization.
My understanding of some of the differences are: (And if I'm off please let me know)
PHTLS (program from NREMT)
Pre-Hospital Life Support
Aimed at EMS, street level medicine and why we do what we do. Provides information that is good for both EMT's and Paramedics.
ATLS
Advanced Trauma Life Support
Provided by the American College of Surgeons...for Doctors.
ITLS
International Trauma Life Support
Provides two different levels of class, Basic for First Responders/EMT's and Advanced for Paramedics, Trauma Nurses, Doctors, etc.
Hope this may help a little. Like I said, I have only taken PHTLS.
Stay Safe,
NewEnglandEVE
We utilize PHTLS at my organization.
My understanding of some of the differences are: (And if I'm off please let me know)
PHTLS (program from NREMT)
Pre-Hospital Life Support
Aimed at EMS, street level medicine and why we do what we do. Provides information that is good for both EMT's and Paramedics.
ATLS
Advanced Trauma Life Support
Provided by the American College of Surgeons...for Doctors.
ITLS
International Trauma Life Support
Provides two different levels of class, Basic for First Responders/EMT's and Advanced for Paramedics, Trauma Nurses, Doctors, etc.
Hope this may help a little. Like I said, I have only taken PHTLS.
Stay Safe,
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This is a good point.
ITLS has good info in it but you have to do it exactly the way they want you too to pass the scenarios.
For what it's worth I took the "Advanced" ITLS class.
adamjh3
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I despised ITLS.
I think most of my hatred stemmed from having just finished the trauma block in my program and having to unlearn all of that to do it "their way."
Granted I felt the same about PEPP, which was basically "take your 'general impression' block from the NREMT medical assessment and turn it into a triangle" stretched out over 16 hours.
I think most of my hatred stemmed from having just finished the trauma block in my program and having to unlearn all of that to do it "their way."
Granted I felt the same about PEPP, which was basically "take your 'general impression' block from the NREMT medical assessment and turn it into a triangle" stretched out over 16 hours.