The most realistic IV injection arm?

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Hello guys,

I'm new in this forum and I'm currently doing resaerch on IV injection arms for the medical school. There are bunch of artificial arms on the market and all of them look pretty realistic. We have arms from: eNasco, Simulaids, Laerdal, 3B Scientific, Things&Limbs, AdamRouilly. They all look nice... and it's really hard for me to choose the best one. Do you guys have some experience with them? Which one would you recommend as the most realistic (lifelike) arm?

I would be thankful for any advice.
 
No one replied me so I will try to propose one phantom myself. I have recently found this product:

Advanced Venipuncture Arm - Light Skin from Limb&Things

(I would give a link to that product but I'm not allowed to do that until I get 5 posts on this forum)

Anyway, the phantom looks very proffesional and realistic to me... but I never had a chance to actually touch it by myself.

Does anybody has some experience in this field?
 
IV arms are good only to teach basic technique. Nothing is close to starting IVs on real people.
 
DEmedic,

Thank you for your response. I can imagine that nothing can replace the practice on a real person and I actually kind of expected such an answer... but let's say we would like to practice just basic skills. There must be some better and worse phantoms. Could you recommend some good one? Or maybe share an experience with a bad product?
 
We had a few different high fidelity mannequins and simulators but none of them were very good for IV practice. The veins were obvious and easy to find and the skin was not realistic. You could also see the poke marks from previous attempts which again made it too easy.

My advice: Put a tourniquet on anyone who will let you. Just look and feel for veins. Finding an appropriate vein is half, or more, the battle.
 
Look at http://www.pocketnurse.com/
They sell training simulators.

Again, one is as good as another. We have a generic IV arm that cost a couple hundred bucks and a SimMan that cost more than a small car. Both are like sticking an IV into a piece of plastic.
 
I see... Thank you for your feedback. It looks like there is no product which is even close to the actual human arm.

Does anyone has any good experience with them?
 
As others have said, I've arms are good for process development and evaluation of habits, but not vein finding or veinpuncture, and real human starts are the way to go.

The most success seems to come from teaching good habits on the plastic arm, then moving to classmates (for "ideal" and "less than ideal" patients in the class), using progressively larger guages, then to real patients, under supervision, with gradually increasing freedom. Like many other skills, repetition is key, under trained supervision.

Especially for medical students, development of good habits and repetition of this rarely used skill should be a priority.
 
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