The Hobet made me feel icky...

shadow5606....Some of the snide comments in here can get annoying, but you do have to develope some thick skin as a student and EMT. During clinicals you may run into medics that have nothing but disdain for students(I suspect a couple are regulars on this forum), or who enjoy putting students on the spot. Others will be almost inhumanly patient and helpful.

I've noticed some of the more ornery regulars on here are the most knowledgeable and experienced. Just take the advice on board and let some of the unhelpful comments go in one ear and out the other.
 
the wisdom of humor

If you ask a surgeon who the three best surgeons are, he will have trouble naming the other two.

The same seems to be true of EMS persons. Welcome to the club, sooner or later somebody will give you a patch and a jacket. :)
 
Yeah, I know you two are right on this one.

Arguing on the internet is goofy and I let medic rub me the wrong way because this is the 2nd thread in my short history with this forum that he's come around barking at me.

So far all the local medics, emts, fire fighters & employers I've been talking with have been pretty supportive and helpful with advice. I realize that will not always be the case.

I'm anxious to get started with my clinicals and plan to do well over the required 48hrs in my program, I'd like to do 100+ if study time & family life permits. So I'm sure I'll run into folks like medic who jump to conclusions and bark for the sake of barking.

Getting through all this is absolutely worth it though.

Thanks for the reasonable words.

No more arguing on the interwebs for me.
 
If you ask a surgeon who the three best surgeons are, he will have trouble naming the other two.

I'm going to have to disagree with this. A surgeon can easily name the best three surgeons ever. It's once you get over three that there starts to be a problem...

Best three surgeons according to any specific surgeon? "Me, myself, and I."
 
Seems like the food chain can be a pretty big focus in EMS/Healthcare.

I was reading on another forum that even anesthesiologists with 12+ years of schooling get snubbed pretty reguarly by surgeons in some places.
 
Seems like the food chain can be a pretty big focus in EMS/Healthcare.

I was reading on another forum that even anesthesiologists with 12+ years of schooling get snubbed pretty reguarly by surgeons in some places.

It's all about fragile egos and the people who feed them. People who are told how great they are for so long believe they haven't the right to be anything else, lest they let someone down. Always having to be perfect so as to not disappoint the expectations of others is sometimes masked as over bearing pride. What a terrible way to have to live everyday. I screw up regularly so I don't let fear of disappointment run my life....;) :P
 
You assigin yourself a title like Resident Curmudgeon for a reason of course, you've got an image to uphold that you're proud of and I'm certainly not your peer, I get that.

Actually one of the other members described me as the "resident cranky old ****er". One of the others modified that to "resident curmudgeon" and it kind of stuck.

Arguing on the internet is goofy and I let medic rub me the wrong way because this is the 2nd thread in my short history with this forum that he's come around barking at me.

Don't take it personal. I do it to everyone (even the moderators and the people I consider friends on here) and if I didn't think you were worth bothering with, I would have told you so. My figuring is if you can't take criticism it is best to get out of the field now because my being blunt is mild compared to what your coworkers will do to you once you've become a peer. Also, a lot of the perceived attitude is simply because of the lack of tone and body language. If I really thought you were a mentally deficient person who needed to be absolutely culled from the field, I would have said so. I've done it before on here. All I said was you demonstrated that you're lacking in innate ability, which should not be taken as a slight but rather simply as a statement that you're going to have to work a lot harder than most people.

So I'm sure I'll run into folks like medic who jump to conclusions and bark for the sake of barking.

I never "bark for the sake of barking". I always have a point, even if it is just to get a laugh out of a situation.

I was reading on another forum that even anesthesiologists with 12+ years of schooling get snubbed pretty reguarly by surgeons in some places.

Pretty much every place. Joke I overheard once:
"What's the difference between a long case according to a surgeon and anesthesiologist?"
"A long case for a surgeon is where you have to scrub out to go to the bathroom. A long case for an anesthesiologist is where they have to remember to bring a second crossword puzzle."

BTW, I heard that joke from a friend who is an anesthesiologist.

During clinicals you may run into medics that have nothing but disdain for students(I suspect a couple are regulars on this forum), or who enjoy putting students on the spot.

What's wrong with putting students on the spot? Our job as clinical instructors is to assure that students are compotent to be certified, is it not? Now, jump pimping them to be a jerk is one thing but grilling them and making them work to pass a clinical is another. My policy was that students were not allowed to sit on their butts and watch TV or otherwise waste time during rotations. You're there to learn and I am going to make you learn. Those who were trying to skate by hated me for it, those who wanted to actually be good at their jobs gave me high marks for it.

Again on this thread you missed the point entirely... You misunderstood what the premise of of this test was and what was actually covered, jumping to conclusions so you could make a smug comment. You know what? If this thread were on the Hobet you'd be failing your reading comprehension.

Actually you made it sound like you were part of a pilot group for your program. It is not at all uncommon for pilot groups to not be held accountable while the bugs are worked out of testing procedures. That is what confused me. The "smug comment" (the one about it not boding well for your academic prowess) was simply a fair and non-tainted assessment of your performance based on your own assessment of your performance. Whether it was of "any consequence" directly to your current program or not has zero bearing on the fact that if you can't pass a basic test of academic skills, you are in for a tough road. No insinuations, no insult intended...it is just the take of a veteran instructor. Best of luck and if you need anything, all you have to do is ask. I may come across as a bit of jerk, but ask Ven or JPINFV, I am always willing to help out so long as the person is polite and respectful to me as a teacher.
 
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Seems like the food chain can be a pretty big focus in EMS/Healthcare.

I was reading on another forum that even anesthesiologists with 12+ years of schooling get snubbed pretty reguarly by surgeons in some places.

Usually once a mortal figures out a surgeon is god, it gets better ;)
 
Pretty much every place. Joke I overheard once:
"What's the difference between a long case according to a surgeon and anesthesiologist?"
"A long case for a surgeon is where you have to scrub out to go to the bathroom. A long case for an anesthesiologist is where they have to remember to bring a second crossword puzzle."

What are the ABCs of anesthesiology?

Airway, Book, Chair.
 
What are the ABCs of anesthesiology?

Airway, Book, Chair.

:lol: :lol:

Told to me by an orthopedic surgeon at work....

Why don't you pick a fight with an orthopedic surgeon?
Because they are strong as oxen and almost as smart.

How do they assign medical specialties?
The top 50% of the class gets to pick their specialties ("the golden ROAD"), the bottom 50% are pithed. Those who can crawl away become family practice, internal medicine (non-specialized), peds, and OB/GYN. Those who can't become orthopedic surgeons.

In a group of doctors, how do you identify the orthopods?
They are the ones with their knuckles dragging on the ground.
 
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2 orthopods reading an EKG?

double blind study.
 
2 orthopods reading an EKG?

double blind study.
What's an orthopedic surgeon's definition of the lungs?
Those two spongy supports for the cephalosporin pump.
 
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Another medical specialty cartoon: http://bp2.blogger.com/_e85U4QbYG7s...0-h/12+medical+specialty+stereotypes+full.jpg
 
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Those of you who also post over at SDN may have seen me post these before. If any of you think you get treated like crap here, you should have seen the way we treated whiny premeds over there. I have two words for you: seppuku thread.


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Well, at least we see straight on all this medic. Thanks for a less agressive post.

First week of class so I'm excited & edgy, I let myself get bothered and and shot off some.

Last thing I'll try to be straight on (can't totally let my ego go) I didn't fail the test, haven't even got my score. Felt good about most of it but probably bombed science. Who knows, I could have gotten lucky.

Ok, it's all out of my system now.

I'll take your lumps less seriously in the future and won't always be as keyed up as my first week in class.

I do appreciate the charts though... I'm a little overwhelmed with options now, thinking about fireservice, nursing, medic school and even looking at PA as an option, maybe there's a chart for me too... :)
 
Well, at least we see straight on all this medic. Thanks for a less agressive post.


No problem. The general rule for me is to read past the attitude. Like I said, I have a point but I'm usually posting while at one of my jobs so I'm already a little irritated. :lol:

I'll take your lumps less seriously in the future and won't always be as keyed up as my first week in class.

If I'm giving you crap, it means because I think you still are worth the effort. If I start ignoring you, that's when you should worry. Good luck and if you need anything, just ask either on the forum or in a PM.
 
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