At my current job (not a working EMT; I work fast food), a customer had a seizure. Was counting my money drawer when I heard people shouting "Call 9-1-1! Call 9-1-1". Leaned over my counter (blocked by a wall) to see what was going on, and there was a crowd in the back. I was partially towards the back to see what was going on, and my friend handed me the phone and told me to just call 9-1-1. I called 'em up, opened the employee side door to get into the lobby where the incident was going on, and I see a female probably in her early thirty's convulsing on the floor while a male had his thumb in her mouth! The dispatcher was was trying to get my attention on the phone "Hello? Hello?!", but I demanded to the guy to get his thumb out of her mouth "Hey! Get your thumb out of her mouth! She might bite you!" He said no. I repeated to him telling him to get his thumb out her mouth or she might bite him, and then tried talking to the dispatcher. She couldn't hear me so I walked through the employee door again to tell her our location plus I didn't know the address exactly so I needed to grab a little paper that said where we were at, but since it was a land line, she figured it out anyhow. Told her that a female was having a seizure. I walked back and told him the paramedics were on their way. He still had his thumb in her mouth, and I warned him again. He said he didn't care if he get hurt just as long as she didn't get hurt so I quickly reversed it and notified him "Hey, I'm an EMT. If you don't get your thumb out of her mouth, she can bite it off, and it could choke her to death. Get it out now." He still refused, but moments later she stopped convulsing. She sat up, but was just staring out the window. She was not responding to anyone when talking. Just staring. I noticed there was blood and I asked "Where is that blood coming from?" Somebody shouted that it was from the guy's hand. He and some other guy was about to lift her up and I shouted "No! If she goes back into a seizure, she could fall and get hurt even worse". By this time they started listening to me, she was sitting up on her own when I said let her lay down, so I asked them to at least support her back in case she goes back into an episode. They asked me what can we do, and I told them "Just make sure she doesn't hurt herself. If she stops breathing, breath for her", and as that happened, she started looking around very confused. The guy who had his thumb in her mouth turned out to be the husband, and he told her she just had a seizure. I asked her name, if she knew where she was, what month it was, and if she was aware what was going on right now. She knew her name, and what month, but didn't know where she was, and thought asked if she fell when I asked her if she knew what was going on. Her kids came running up, stood in front of her while crying, along with her husband (didn't see his hand bleeding at all). She wanted to get up for the kids, and adviced her not to get up, but she tried anyhow, and her husband and some another guy assisting restrained her, and I said "Don't restrain her. Ma'am. I recommend you don't get up for your own safety. Can somebody calm the kids down [was looking at her husband]?" The fire department arrived and immediately took over. Didn't question me at all, and I didn't interrupt them when they were asking her and the husband questions. They did a 12-lead, asked the husband and the patient questions, c-spined her, and transported. Before the paramedics arrived, I was going in and out from answering the dispatchers questions to telling the guys not to do things. Dispatcher hung up when paramedics arrived. Since I was stuck in the room with the patient, medics, husband, and kids, I got to overhear that the blood turned out to be from her neck hitting a chair when she fell. I am unsure if she had a seizure before falling, or after, but the husband insisted to the medics that it had to happen before.
Just thought it was interesting enough to share even though the guys didn't really follow my commands, I never got to touch the patient (and I already know that there isn't much you can do for a seizure anyhow), didn't do a patient assessment (saw she was breathing, saw the blood on the floor, asked A+O questions twice, and that's it), and I didn't get to say a single word to the arriving medics. I think it could've been a lot worse if the guy thumb got bit off so I am thankful for that. This situation makes me question if I wasn't very commanding perhaps by looks (I look like I am fresh from high school), the fact that I was wearing my work uniform for the fast food place I work at, or if it was just the fact that the husband was freaking out and he wouldn't even listen to a paramedic in uniform (or higher up, an RN or physician) if one was there.
Just thought it was interesting enough to share even though the guys didn't really follow my commands, I never got to touch the patient (and I already know that there isn't much you can do for a seizure anyhow), didn't do a patient assessment (saw she was breathing, saw the blood on the floor, asked A+O questions twice, and that's it), and I didn't get to say a single word to the arriving medics. I think it could've been a lot worse if the guy thumb got bit off so I am thankful for that. This situation makes me question if I wasn't very commanding perhaps by looks (I look like I am fresh from high school), the fact that I was wearing my work uniform for the fast food place I work at, or if it was just the fact that the husband was freaking out and he wouldn't even listen to a paramedic in uniform (or higher up, an RN or physician) if one was there.
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