Online Paramedic Program

rural911

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Hey There,

Came across this Online Paramedic Program http://nmetc.com
Seems very legit. Staff was very open to answering any of my questions, and I quoted below what a portion of there website says. I'm curious if anyone has attended this program, and if so what's the 411 on it? Thanks

"The virtual, or web-based, classroom offers a state-of-the-art approach to deliver an unparalleled paramedic program. All the interactivity of a traditional classroom setting is combined with the flexibility and convenience of an online format, as each student utilizes a headset, complete with noise-cancelling microphone, and signs-in to our virtual classroom through an internet web address for a LIVE, interactive lecture. Our program is compatible with any standard web browser, with no extra software or downloads required. The virtual classroom entails total application sharing…whatever the instructor is showing on his or her computer will be visible to all the students. Lessons include Power Point presentations, audio and video clips/movies, handouts and a variety of other pertinent documents and visuals. Students will not only view the instructor and the lecture/presentations, they have the ability to interact with him or her, as well as fellow students…ask questions, make comments, and be a part of a technologically-advanced program that accommodates virtually all learning styles..."
 

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8K is a lot for a medic cert. do you know the pass rate for the school or talk to anyone who has taken the program? yes?
also look a www.trainingdivision.com. i know what kind of program they have and its not bad. or www.emtinc.net they have a 4 month program for former military 18D's and such
 
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medicRob

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Hey There,

Came across this Online Paramedic Program http://nmetc.com
Seems very legit. Staff was very open to answering any of my questions, and I quoted below what a portion of there website says. I'm curious if anyone has attended this program, and if so what's the 411 on it? Thanks

"The virtual, or web-based, classroom offers a state-of-the-art approach to deliver an unparalleled paramedic program. All the interactivity of a traditional classroom setting is combined with the flexibility and convenience of an online format, as each student utilizes a headset, complete with noise-cancelling microphone, and signs-in to our virtual classroom through an internet web address for a LIVE, interactive lecture. Our program is compatible with any standard web browser, with no extra software or downloads required. The virtual classroom entails total application sharing…whatever the instructor is showing on his or her computer will be visible to all the students. Lessons include Power Point presentations, audio and video clips/movies, handouts and a variety of other pertinent documents and visuals. Students will not only view the instructor and the lecture/presentations, they have the ability to interact with him or her, as well as fellow students…ask questions, make comments, and be a part of a technologically-advanced program that accommodates virtually all learning styles..."
Nothing about an online paramedic program seems legit. Stop looking for shortcuts and get with a campus-based program.
 

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Nothing about an online paramedic program seems legit. Stop looking for shortcuts and get with a campus-based program.
Seconded. There's too much to learn, and you will have too many questions (hopefully) to try and pull that off online without some experienced minds to pick. I'm sure it's doable and passing Registry is possible, but not a good idea IMO. Especially if you don't have several years exp under your belt
 

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I don't really see how you can get what you need out of an online class. How do you learn thing like Intubation online, or IVs, or drug administration, or extrication/rescue. Sure they can show you a powerpoint on how to use the lifepak-12, but it is much better when you have one to play with yourself. Just the dynamics of lifting and moving patients, sure you can sit and watch someone do it online 100 times, but you will never get a feel for it until you do it yourself. Same with KEDs, long boards, collars, splints, etc. :)
 

medic417

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And again ignorance strikes. People with no knowledge of quality online education spout off inaccuracies. The better online programs are as good if not better than most regular programs. There are diploma mills online and regular. As to the hands on you actually attend hands on classes. They are not totally online they are more of a hybrid. They are not easy. They are not a shortcut. In fact many students quit because it requires so much more research rather than someone spoon feeding you like most standard courses do.

To the OP check out these more established online programs:

www.techproservices.net

www.percomonline.com
 

medicRob

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And again ignorance strikes. People with no knowledge of quality online education spout off inaccuracies. The better online programs are as good if not better than most regular programs. There are diploma mills online and regular. As to the hands on you actually attend hands on classes. They are not totally online they are more of a hybrid. They are not easy. They are not a shortcut. In fact many students quit because it requires so much more research rather than someone spoon feeding you like most standard courses do.

To the OP check out these more established online programs:

www.techproservices.net

www.percomonline.com
I have no problem with hybrid courses, so long as they are with an established campus-based paramedic program and the online time is used only for purely lecture.. However, this does not seem like one of those programs.

Moreover, having attended 4 years of nursing school for my BSN via traditional university studies and having attended paramedic school in a traditional program, choosing not to use my RN to "challenge" the NREMT-P, I feel that I am more than qualified to say that there is no way an online program is going to give you the same education as an on-campus and hands-on program, so ignorance has nothing to do with it.
 

medic417

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I have no problem with hybrid courses, so long as they are with an established campus-based paramedic program and the online time is used only for purely lecture.. However, this does not seem like one of those programs.

Moreover, having attended 4 years of nursing school for my BSN via traditional university studies and having attended paramedic school in a traditional program, choosing not to use my RN to "challenge" the NREMT-P, I feel that I am more than qualified to say that there is no way an online program is going to give you the same education as an on-campus and hands-on program, so ignorance has nothing to do with it.
Actually as you have not experienced online education you are therefore ignorant of its benefits and quality. You equate the method you have experienced as being the only correct method but that is an inaccurate way to reason.
 

medicRob

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Actually as you have not experienced online education you are therefore ignorant of its benefits and quality. You equate the method you have experienced as being the only correct method but that is an inaccurate way to reason.
Do I have to be struck by lightning to understand that I don't want any part of it? Let me pose these questions to you... How am I supposed to teach you how to intubate without a hands on lab? How can I effectively teach you how to start an IV and feel the pop as you go through a vein online?
 

medic417

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Do I have to be struck by lightning to understand that I don't want any part of it? Let me pose these questions to you... How am I supposed to teach you how to intubate without a hands on lab? How can I effectively teach you how to start an IV and feel the pop as you go through a vein online?
There's the hands on part of the classes. Again you presume no hands on yet there is hands on required.
 

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Actually as you have not experienced online education you are therefore ignorant of its benefits and quality. You equate the method you have experienced as being the only correct method but that is an inaccurate way to reason.
+1 to this. As another poster pointed out to me in a PM, there are some people that believe that their personal experience with education dictates the path that everyone else should take.

Looking through the OP's link, it states that there is a hands-on component after completing the didactic portion. Facilities in Texas has been implementing a lot of these type of programs in recent years. If it's approved by the state and NREMT, I see no problem with it. The state and NREMT do not give the go-ahead for a program without reviewing it. And I'm certain that their review is a little more thorough than "omg online program = suxxxx!!!!!"

Do I have to be struck by lightning to understand that I don't want any part of it?
This is probably one of the worst analogies ever.
 

rural911

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Some good points here, but it seems the pratical portion is no dif than any other program.

"Skills Training:
Upon completion of the didactic portion of the program, students will be required to travel to our school for 90 hours of skills training. Students will not only be trained in all the National Registry Skills stations, but will be adequately prepared for a multitude of real-world situations through extensive hands-on training and instruction in our state-of-the-art simulation labs…all held in our extensive, 4000 square-foot, Massachusetts training facility..."


Still though, is there possibly anyone on here that has attended this actual program? http://nmetc.com I have ran the checks on the state level, and national level, and they check out, but wanted to get some possile feedback from someone who maybe attended there program. If you read through there site it seems like a good fit for many people. I know some people that are stuck at the EMT level cause they have kids, or mortagage or whatever, and can't take a year off work to go to P school. The testimonies on the site seem real also not just created by the school ya know.

"I was interested in completing my education to the paramedic level, but the problem was that I have a full time day job and a family of 5. Every other conventional paramedic program I came across conflicted with these things, but I was determined to find a way to accomplish my goal. It was at that point that I came across a one-of-a-kind, hybrid program that presented the didactic program online, the labs at their campus, and later in my home town, the clinical and field rotations. I thought I was hallucinating. I read the program description 4 times! I had finally found what I was looking for
..."

Thanks again for the replies..Hope to find someone that is or has attended the program cause it checks out highly on every other level I've looked into.
 
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medic417

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Look at the cost of the more established compared to the one you posted.
 

rural911

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8K is a lot for a medic cert. do you know the pass rate for the school or talk to anyone who has taken the program? yes?
also look a www.trainingdivision.com. i know what kind of program they have and its not bad. or www.emtinc.net they have a 4 month program for former military 18D's and such
I was looking through there site more and on there FAQ page it says this:
"What is the programs pass/fail rate?

The paramedic programs that Brad Newbury ran have had one of the highest pass rates in Massachusetts. Over the last seven programs, he has a 99% pass rate for those students who participated in both the Massachusetts and National Written Certification Exams..."

So, seems like they def got there act together, and have been doing it for awhile now. Did you happen to know of anyone who might of taken this actual program? the http://nmetc.com/online-remote.php ???
 

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Yes I do.

Several of my Australian employees took his program and I mentored them when able to...we did this while in Afghanistan. I sat in on several of the lectures with my staff so I could monitor their progress.

I know Brad personally, he does a decent program. He was with another school before starting this one on his own.
 

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Few thoughts on this item.
First off 8k is not that much for going to medic school. Much as it pains me to say the average medic school in Northern California cost 10 to 11k. Some are less as you purchase your own supplies. You then have to pay for you intenship, anywhere from 500 to 850 hundred.

Second a online program can work if structured correctly whether it is alinged with or without a campus. Who knows if the setup doesnt work better to have a seperate didacte and skills portion. I am more courious with who is doing the clinical and intership parts. Major issue back here.

Thrid it is the next wave in education whether we like it or not. Hell we have the AHA putting on CPR and ACLS classes online then going somwhere to have you monitored for skills. We need to work with and in the system to make sure what comes out is well prepared.
 

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It depends on where you live. I paid less than $3,000 for my medic here (including ALL books, materials and alphabet courses). The average around here is in the $3,000 area.
 

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I can't speak to the original OP question, since I know nothing of the school.

However, I do know of a school here in DFW, TrainingDivision.com. I initially didn't care for the idea, even though I got my fire cert. throught them. They fill a niche. I have met several EMS students who have traveled here from far distances. The reason they do it online is because they live in areas where there is no opportunity to take the class. Keep in mind, not all areas of the world are urbanized, with ready, close access to educational facilities.
 

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Really, average 10 to 11k, maybe for a private, but any CC program should not be close to that.


Few thoughts on this item.
First off 8k is not that much for going to medic school. Much as it pains me to say the average medic school in Northern California cost 10 to 11k. Some are less as you purchase your own supplies. You then have to pay for you intenship, anywhere from 500 to 850 hundred.

Second a online program can work if structured correctly whether it is alinged with or without a campus. Who knows if the setup doesnt work better to have a seperate didacte and skills portion. I am more courious with who is doing the clinical and intership parts. Major issue back here.

Thrid it is the next wave in education whether we like it or not. Hell we have the AHA putting on CPR and ACLS classes online then going somwhere to have you monitored for skills. We need to work with and in the system to make sure what comes out is well prepared.
 

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NMETC Online Paramedic Program

Hello Everyone,

My name is Brad Newbury and I am the Program Director for NMETC's Online Paramedic program. I have over 15 years of EMS education and worked tirelessly to make sure that our program was not like the other "online programs" I looked at others and wanted to make sure that our program was something altogether different than just reading ppt and taking exams.

About 4 years ago I created a live interactive online paramedic program that uses the latest technology available to deliver the live lectures. Like I said it is interactive. My goal was to create critically thinking Paramedics. We are NOT a Cert Mill pumping out paramedic students!

We have some great instructors from around the globe that deliver the traditional content in a non-traditional manner. Lectures are live and all of them are recorded so students that have life challenges can make up the lecture. What face-to-face program has that?

For Medic Rob who has no experience in online education I would invite you to attend one of our sessions online. Having a closed mind to today's technology is probably due to lack of knowledge. I agree with him that skills cannot be taught online, although we do have videos for students to review before they come for their skills training at our facility.

In my past classes, we have seen skills mastery in about half the time that it takes in traditional classes. We use a military model of a skills boot camp, with smaller student to instructor ratio (2 or 3 to 1). This gives students more 1 on 1 time with instructors and manikins.

We are an extension program of the University of Texas Health Science Center in San Antonio in Massachusetts. All of our paramedic students are UT students as well and at the completion of the program students are awarded 33 college credits from the University.

If anyone would like to speak to current or former students of the program I would be more than happy to put you in touch with them. If you want to contact me directly my email is Brad@nmetc.com

I would also encourage you to contact our State OEMS Training Coordinator Russell Johansen at russell.johansen@state.ma.us or telephone him at (617) 753-7300. Russ has audited every aspect of our program from the content, lectures and Skills training boot camp. Here is their website http://www.mass.gov/dph/oems
 
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