Is trainning division .com a legitamate EMT-P school?

My motive is I don`t want to take 4 yrs to get from point A to B...

Australia /New Zealand requires four years for Paramedic (ILS) and up to six years for Intensive Care Paramedic (ALS)

Canada requires either one or two years for Primary Care Paramedic (BLS) and then another one or two years for Advanced Care Paramedic (ALS)

The UK requires three to four years for State Registered Paramedic (ALS)

South Africa requires two years for Intermediate Life Support and four years for Advanced.

.... you think two years is a problem?
 
Not that 2 yrs is not a problem. Its more like 4 yrs is a problem.

Funny, thing is if I was to run off & get Emt-P cert in Texas. I could come back to Indiana, & take the 6 general courses & get a ASN in Paramedic Science.

The process they have hear is your required to get all the general education requirements before they will accept you into the Paramedic program. EMS instructors said they know of 5 counties in the region wanting Paramedics really bad. For the most part AMR will not touch most Emt-B`s unless there in the Paramedic program.

All the ambulances in the area run 1 Emt-B & 1 Paramedic.
 
Not that 2 yrs is not a problem. Its more like 4 yrs is a problem.

Funny, thing is if I was to run off & get Emt-P cert in Texas. I could come back to Indiana, & take the 6 general courses & get a ASN in Paramedic Science.

The process they have hear is your required to get all the general education requirements before they will accept you into the Paramedic program. EMS instructors said they know of 5 counties in the region wanting Paramedics really bad. For the most part AMR will not touch most Emt-B`s unless there in the Paramedic program.

All the ambulances in the area run 1 Emt-B & 1 Paramedic.

That's the way a Paramedic program should be. They should require you to complete a "Lower Division, Pre-Paramedic Curriculum" before being allowed to apply to the upper division Paramedic school and that decision should be contigent upon your cumulative GPA, how well you do on an EMT-Basic test, and MMPI exam.

Why shouldn't you be required too? I had to complete this for my nursing degree, to be accepted into Upper Division. If you are truly serious about becoming a healthcare professional, you will pursue the 4 year program. You are far better off in the end. I would encourage you to also take "Composition II", "General Biology I and I", "Prof communications" and "Microbiology" as electives at a bare minimum.
 
Why shouldn't you be required too? I had to complete this for my nursing degree, to be accepted into Upper Division. If you are truly serious about becoming a healthcare professional, you will pursue the 4 year program. You are far better off in the end. I would encourage you to also take "Composition II", "General Biology I and I", "Prof communications" and "Microbiology" as electives at a bare minimum.

I would argue that a professional degree program, be it undergrad or graduate level, should include all of the general education and foundational material as a part of the program. As a bio major, I didn't have to reapply to school once I finished the undergrad courses. As a grad student, I didn't have to reapply to grad school to start my thesis research. As a medical student, I won't have to reapply to school once I get out of basic medical sciences to start clerkships. Similarly, I can't think of a single medical school where the major medical foundation courses (anatomy, physiology, pharmacology, etc. In contrast to basic science courses like general chemistry, physics, etc) are required outside of a small exception. The only real exception I can think of is some require undergrad biochemistry, but that's hardly every school (note: many, if not most, recommend biochem, but I can't think of a single school that even recommends physiology).

The only problem I see with medic school is that there are too many programs out there that think that 2 weeks and anatomy and physiology is giving the material due justice.
 
This is the Curriculum for ASN in Paramedic Science the school offers:

APHY 101 Anatomy and Physiology I 3
APHY 102 Anatomy and Physiology II 3
** COMM XXX Communications Elective 3
ENGL 111 English Composition 3
IVYT 1XX Life Skills Elective 1 - 3
** MATH 1XX Mathematics Elective 3
XXXX XXX Humanities/Social & Behavioral Sciences Elective 3
General Education: 19 - 21


Professional-Technical
PARM 102 Emergency Medical Technician - Basic Training 7.5
PARM 111 Preparatory 3
PARM 112 Prehospital Pharmacology 3
PARM 115 Airway, Patient Assessment 3.5
PARM 116 Clinical Application I 1.5
PARM 200 Trauma 3
PARM 210 Medical I 6
PARM 213 Medical II 5
PARM 215 Special Considerations 3.5
PARM 216 Clinical Application II 1.5
PARM 219 Clinical Application III 1.5
^ PARM 220 Operations 2.5
PARM 221 Ambulance Internship 6
Professional-Technical: 47.5

Total: 66.5 - 68.5

This is for the community college not trainning division.
 
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I would argue that a professional degree program, be it undergrad or graduate level, should include all of the general education and foundational material as a part of the program. As a bio major, I didn't have to reapply to school once I finished the undergrad courses. As a grad student, I didn't have to reapply to grad school to start my thesis research. As a medical student, I won't have to reapply to school once I get out of basic medical sciences to start clerkships. Similarly, I can't think of a single medical school where the major medical foundation courses (anatomy, physiology, pharmacology, etc. In contrast to basic science courses like general chemistry, physics, etc) are required outside of a small exception. The only real exception I can think of is some require undergrad biochemistry, but that's hardly every school (note: many, if not most, recommend biochem, but I can't think of a single school that even recommends physiology).

The only problem I see with medic school is that there are too many programs out there that think that 2 weeks and anatomy and physiology is giving the material due justice.

I could cite some medical schools that require anatomy & physiology, but let's be real. When you get into medical school, you are going to be taking gross anatomy and re-learning everything you learned in undergrad A & P plus some in far more detail. I am getting ready to go through the med school process myself, having completed an undergraduate degree in chemistry with an emphasis in biology, once my MSN program culminates. The particular school I will be applying to requires hours in biology (to include A &P I and II and Gen Bio I and II) as well as algebra based physics, etc, but the real emphasis that is common amongst medical schools are the organic and inorganic chemistry requirements, so yes; I agree with you on that.

I certainly agree with you about the medic schools who tihnk that 2 weeks of anatomy is doing the material justice. As I said, I spent more time in A & P and Pathophysiology alone than many individuals spent in their entire medic program, as I am sure you have as well, JPINFV. One of my jobs is working as a teaching assistant in Anatomy & Physiology I Lecture and teaching Anatomy & Physiology II laboratory. I am fortunate enough to work with a University that teaches the course at a graduate level, so we go into things like, "G proteins and the role of adenylate cyclase on cAMP production, etc" which I feel could truly benefit the medic student in the pharmacology portion of their course when they are learning about things like cyclic-AMP-dependant inotropes like dobutamine for instance and the mechanism of action these drugs possess. Having this basic foundation of both Anatomy & Physiology and molecular biology will greatly contribute to creating EMS Providers who no longer practice "Cookbook Medicine", but rather treat the patient's condition while taking into consideration the underlying pathophysiological alterations responsible for the problems.

If we can incorporate programs that have the same general education requirements as nursing, then we can truly create well-rounded providers and take one more step forward toward being accepted as a profession.
 
How serous would you take an Emt-b class? If you could retake the chapter tests till you get 100% & the work book answer were all in the back. & this totalled for about 75% of your grade. & you only have to get 80% to pass the class. & they mainly focus on the Skill Sheets for State Practicals. The class seems to be focusing more on getting stat Cert than NREMT.
 
How serous would you take an Emt-b class? If you could retake the chapter tests till you get 100% & the work book answer were all in the back. & this totalled for about 75% of your grade. & you only have to get 80% to pass the class. & they mainly focus on the Skill Sheets for State Practicals. The class seems to be focusing more on getting stat Cert than NREMT.

Look at the medic mills in the US. They train people to take tests, not to be good medics. That is why we call them patch factories.

Also, the curriculum of that AS, Paramedic program (Not ASN, ASN = Associate of Science in Nursing) looks respectable. You should take that program in my opinion.
 
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