LOUISBURG, N.C. -- Four paramedics and a volunteer EMS are suspended with pay after a medical examiner studying a body in a morgue discovered the person was still alive.
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That must suck.....
LOUISBURG, N.C. -- Four paramedics and a volunteer EMS are suspended with pay after a medical examiner studying a body in a morgue discovered the person was still alive.
Out my way, every squad has them. Up until 2 years ago, the local ambulance did all DOA transports, too. Now the Coroners' office has their own transporters, but depending on the nature, etc, sometimes the ambulance will still transport the DOA.Originally posted by daemonicusxx@Jan 26 2005, 05:02 PM
we recently purchased an ambulance. used by the FD, and when we were cleaning it out we found a few things. one thing we found was a body bag kit, with the toe tags and stuff. i was just wondering why a FD Medic would be stocking a body bag kit
Why not verify asystole in 3 leads? you should be able to on any monitor... right?Originally posted by ResTech@Jan 28 2005, 11:55 AM
* And if ALS is there they will apply the cardiac monitor and verify asystole in a minimum of two leads.
I'm getting a Monty Python flash here:Originally posted by DFDEMS@Jan 26 2005, 02:52 PM
LOUISBURG, N.C. -- Four paramedics and a volunteer EMS are suspended with pay after a medical examiner studying a body in a morgue discovered the person was still alive.
Full article here
That must suck.....
Good point. I'd like to know if they considered themselves to be in a MCI situation, since we all know that the rules for pronouncing death change then. Unfortunately, I don't think we will ever hear both sides of the story.Originally posted by MMiz@Jan 28 2005, 05:55 PM
Many people have brought up many great points, but we're really only hearing one side of the story.
I'd like to know what was actually performed before they declared the patient.
when I was Vollying on a 9-1-1 truck, the medics had to confirm asystole in 3 leads before they were given command to pronounce.Originally posted by ResTech@Jan 29 2005, 09:53 PM
PArescueEMT,
The verifying of asystole in two leads is a redundant procedure. If you have no electrical activity in at least two different leads, checking any additional leads isn't going to be anymore conclusive. Most monitors can perform 12-leads but we don't perform a 12-lead on a DOA for confirmation.
But I do understand where your coming from and they're isn't anything saying you can't check in three different leads if you as a provider would choose to do so.