First Ride Along w/ Funny Story

Let me stick my toe into this. What are your thoughts on medics telling patients-- "We are going to try H2ONa therapy-- lets see how it helps"-- then running in saline...? In that situation, you are providing a therapy that is within protocols-- not outlandish, and not embarrassing. The medic is neither lying to the patient nor dismissing their complaints or refusing to treat patients they see as "BS".
 
emt.dan said:
Let me stick my toe into this. What are your thoughts on medics telling patients-- "We are going to try H2ONa therapy-- lets see how it helps"-- then running in saline...? In that situation, you are providing a therapy that is within protocols-- not outlandish, and not embarrassing. The medic is neither lying to the patient nor dismissing their complaints or refusing to treat patients they see as "BS".
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So now you are providing a therapy that is not needed...although deemed harmless by the way you state it, you are ok with performing invasive treatments to soothe a psyche as opposed to professional behavior, explanations and procedures or denial of procedures.

Knowing when NOT to do something is just as important as knowing when to do it...this is one of the fundamental differences I speak about when teaching and to me is one of the major differences between training and education.
 
My bachelor of emergency health does, as it happens, have a number of bioethics components. As did the science degree I started before it, and it came up once or twice in my six years of RE at secondary school.

So I'm fairly well equipped, as I mentioned, to have the Utilitarianism vs Idealism argument. But this is not the place. Nor is it the place to make nasty, pointless remarks. We disagree, get over it.
 
Sasha said:
I guess in all that education required in austraila they didn't include an ethics class.
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Sorry Sasha but you're wrong we do study ethics here im currently studying it in my course and it runs for an entire semster at my uni. Meclin may or may not do it at his uni, but please don't lump us all in the same group. I have very different opinions to others on here and think every patient ( yes drug addicts, murderers, paedophiles) should be treated the same as the patients you enjoy treating because at the end of the day my feelings/emotions are my problem to deal with and not theirs. We often get told to treat every patient as though we are treating our mother by our lecturers, some people take that on board others don't. Another part of my course included using self awareness to identify patients we don't won't to or don't look forward to treating and to reflect on why we have those feelings and to deal with them. So for example I felt I wouldn't like treating alcohol affected patients and the reason for that is I have an alcoholic parent. However rather than treat them like :censored::censored::censored::censored: or humiliate them I chose to 'shelve' any emotions I have and treat the patient like any other then deal with my emotions in my own time and space.

Please don't flame me as this is just my own opinion and personal approach to things.

Cheers

Jinx
 
emt.dan said:
Let me stick my toe into this. What are your thoughts on medics telling patients-- "We are going to try H2ONa therapy-- lets see how it helps"-- then running in saline...? In that situation, you are providing a therapy that is within protocols-- not outlandish, and not embarrassing. The medic is neither lying to the patient nor dismissing their complaints or refusing to treat patients they see as "BS".
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But thats just wrong Dan don't ya know!??? Jeez, you have to be perfect in this field
 
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