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So before I get too much further in to this, I've poked around various forums and this question inevitably results in people berating the fdny takeover of nyc ems, ripping the entire service apart, and then taking a proverbial leak over its memory. I've already decided it's what I want to do with myself, the problems with the service be d*mned. So please, save your rants, I'm looking for information to maximize my chances of being hired.

First - I've caught a few threads across the internets saying that the whole fdny is on a hiring freeze. Is this just for firefighters, or is this also for their ems branch as well? If there's a freeze then it wouldn't make much sense to start altering everything around the process and such.

Second - I'm already pushing the application for license reciprocity through, but what are their hiring policies when it comes to out-of-staters? Is it going to be better for me to already live in NYC, or am I alright staying where I am during the process?

Third - What can I do, or what information can I have ready to chuck out, that will make myself a better candidate?

Presently I'm a full-time firefighter/emt-b in Wisconsin, I'm a BLS instructor, and have 2 years experience in EMS. It's a very cosy job, but lacks the call volume and there's no room for professional advancement (ie - we'll be a basic service till pigs fly or a few chiefs retire). I feel I'm qualified, but I'd like to know everything I can do to bring myself that extra few feet closer to the finish line. Any advice, or answers to the question above?
 
My work schedule doesn't allow me to get my medic license, nor would my Chief be very appreciative of it. I can't afford to quit my job, either.
 
abeth86 said:
First - I've caught a few threads across the internets saying that the whole fdny is on a hiring freeze. Is this just for firefighters, or is this also for their ems branch as well? If there's a freeze then it wouldn't make much sense to start altering everything around the process and such.
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Your obviously not familiar with the FDNY. Firefighters and EMS are separate branches. ANd whether they are on a freeze or not, it is not a good idea to start altering everything around the process until you have actually been hired.

Actually I would get another job in NYC before even applying.


Second - I'm already pushing the application for license reciprocity through, but what are their hiring policies when it comes to out-of-staters? Is it going to be better for me to already live in NYC, or am I alright staying where I am during the process?
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Out of state like living in NJ or living in Wisconsin. Your clealry going to live in NY/NJ or CT to work for FDNY. PA is a possibility. WI is not even possible.

Third - What can I do, or what information can I have ready to chuck out, that will make myself a better candidate?
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You need a GED and a NYS EMT card. Than you need to call them.
 
Have you considered working in NJ? You could work for Jersey City Medical Center while applying for the FDNY.
 
I could be wrong but being hired on with FDNY being only a basic doesnt sound very likely, From what I hear you would be damn luckly if you were able to get an IFT position in NYC as a basic. You might have a better chance with them applying as a Firefighter and not as an EMT.
 
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Is Jersey Medical Center hiring? That would certainly be a possibility.

Out of state like living in NJ or living in Wisconsin. Your clealry going to live in NY/NJ or CT to work for FDNY. PA is a possibility. WI is not even possible.
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And I certainly wouldn't be commuting from Wisco, I'd be moving :P
 
subliminal1284 said:
I could be wrong but being hired on with FDNY being only a basic doesnt sound very likely, From what I hear you would be damn luckly if you were able to get an IFT position in NYC as a basic. You might have a better chance with them applying as a Firefighter and not as an EMT.
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No chance of being hired as a firefighter.

You could be hired as an EMT if there wasn't a hiring freeze as long as you have a NYS EMT card and a valid DL. Your past experience means nada. You will be learning the entire EMT class again NY style...whatever that means.
 
abeth86 said:
Is Jersey Medical Center hiring? That would certainly be a possibility.



And I certainly wouldn't be commuting from Wisco, I'd be moving :P
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its my understanding the Jersey City is always hiring. The place has a reputation for people leaving shortly after being hired. You need a Jersey card and 2 years experience so you should be fine. A PHTLS class will help.
 
firecoins said:
You will be learning the entire EMT class again NY style...whatever that means.
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That you dumb down EMS even further than it is every where else. Well except NJ.
 
medic417 said:
That you dumb down EMS even further than it is every where else. Well except NJ.
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You mean CA isn't the bottom of the EMS barrel? Huh
 
jtpaintball70 said:
You mean CA isn't the bottom of the EMS barrel? Huh
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They don't really exist they are only an old fairy tale as nothing could be as bad as they are supposed to be.
 
Dude, I'm leaving Jersey for Fla. Do NOT do it.
You have a fulltime FF job. Enjoy it.
 
medic417 said:
That you dumb down EMS even further than it is every where else. Well except NJ.
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Not necessarily FDNY EMTS have pretty good BLS skills. There is alot of MCI/NIMS/terror attack type stuff, plus NYC protocols on top of an EMT class again. Also you learn to follow orders.

Of course NYC is an overly buerocratic system with all sorts of nonsense.
 
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BLSBoy said:
Dude, I'm leaving Jersey for Fla. Do NOT do it.
You have a fulltime FF job. Enjoy it.
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I have to agree with this. A fulltime FF/EMS job does not come easy round here and right now w/ budget cuts its worse.
 
recently saw one of those FDNY EMS 'now hiring' ads on the side of a phone booth in Forest Hills, NY. Should I be skeptical or hopeful?
 
YOu should go through the process. If they hire you, great.
 
firecoins said:
YOu should go through the process. If they hire you, great.
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Filled out one of those forms @ the mall. Gave the rep my drivers license, ss#, etc. He said I'd be contacted in August before my program ends (probably to do the psych and physical exam).

I'm still very early in my classes, and have yet to do my ambulance rotations (12 hrs minimum). I hope to be more informed in this field.

Wish me luck.
 
You mean CA isn't the bottom of the EMS barrel? Huh
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Nah, the bottom five for me are (in descending order, from bad to worse):
5. California
4. New York
3. Pennsylvania or Florida (tie)
2. New Jersey
1. Maryland

Seriously, California could literally lobotomize its entire EMS community and still have a better system than Maryland. Pretty much the only non-OLMC orders were kissing Robert Bass' backside, calling for the helicopter and worshiping at the altar of R. Adam Cowley. If you want to see how EMS was practiced in the early 1980s, move to Maryland.
 
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