Face eating. Zombies?

[waaaemt]

i'm pretty sure it's not actual bath salts but is called that for its similar appearance. heard it on the news and a reuters article.

but yeah crazy stuff. the first article i read about this stuff was last year when i lady had to get her arm, shoulder, leg and breast amputated from infection by a bacteria found in the bath salts....

 

[AnthonyM83]

From the info messages we've gotten, it's not like people are going to Bed Bath and Beyond or a spa and getting a bad batch of bath salts.

People are purposely using drugs to get high. They're being called bath salts as slang or to pass them off as legal.

 

[shannonlovesth]

Hopefully I can post this here not sure if it deserves its own thread.
So I can't sleep and went on one of my late night random youtube sprees and looked up stuff about Bath Salts and I found something really scary (besides the effects of bath salts). A lot of these people when taken by EMS for evaluation are being placed prone and hog tied on stretchers... The last time I checked Bath Salts or not transporting a pt. prone and hog tied is extremely dangerous and illegal and most if not all states.

Here is probably the worst example I found...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVungOK5hyc

 

[Tigger]

Hopefully I can post this here not sure if it deserves its own thread.
So I can't sleep and went on one of my late night random youtube sprees and looked up stuff about Bath Salts and I found something really scary (besides the effects of bath salts). A lot of these people when taken by EMS for evaluation are being placed prone and hog tied on stretchers... The last time I checked Bath Salts or not transporting a pt. prone and hog tied is extremely dangerous and illegal and most if not all states.

Here is probably the worst example I found...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVungOK5hyc

Yes, placing a restrained patient prone on the stretcher is probably not the best practice. Not being there I will refrain from directly criticizing the crew and will only add that I have yet to come across a time when it was necessary.

 

[usalsfyre]

Hopefully I can post this here not sure if it deserves its own thread.
So I can't sleep and went on one of my late night random youtube sprees and looked up stuff about Bath Salts and I found something really scary (besides the effects of bath salts). A lot of these people when taken by EMS for evaluation are being placed prone and hog tied on stretchers... The last time I checked Bath Salts or not transporting a pt. prone and hog tied is extremely dangerous and illegal and most if not all states.

Here is probably the worst example I found...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVungOK5hyc

I'll just say that's a rather brave crew....

The theory on excited delirium deaths has to do with acidemia and hyperthermia. Meaning increasing exertion by proning the patient is adding to the problem. In addition, it appears as though they're doing some sort of constricting sheet wrap.

This patient needs sedation. If you can't provide it, get someone there who can or call for the orders. Not doing so is playing Russian Roulette with the patient.

 

[Tigger]

I'll just say that's a rather brave crew....
This patient needs sedation. If you can't provide it, get someone there who can or call for the orders. Not doing so is playing Russian Roulette with the patient.

This attitude needs to become more prevalent in some areas. Here every psych call seems to be BLS only unless it's a transfer and the patient is already sedated. We get psych calls from the city fairly regularly (Boston EMS will not take a patient from their home with psych hold placed on them by their doctor), and everyone I work with seems to be completely oblivious to chemical sedation on these calls, preferring to instead to go for the police and restraints method. The police are great for getting your point across, but I don't subscribe to the "they're crazy, tackle 'em!" line of thinking. It's a lot more comfortable for the patient to be sedated and a lot easier for everyone on scene, but sadly many basics are embarrassed to use ALS for a "non-emergent" call and many medics are none too pleased to be dragged into psych transfers. Plus Boston EMS only sends their handcuff equipped BLS units to EDP type calls, which is somehow my coworkers' justification.