Emt-Intermediate/99 vs Paramedic Specialist

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Hello all

I'm soon going to be at a point in my ems training where I decide to take the EMT-I-99 or get the 2 year degree A.A.S with the Paramedic Specialist.

I'd like to get the paramedic specialist of course but things are tough for work/time and such.

My questions is do you think its a waste for the EMT-I-99(Iowa paramedic)

Also I could bridge over below to the Paramedic Specialist after I take the state/NR for EMT-I-99 and practice as an Iowa medic.

Below link is the Certificate program for EMT-I 99
http://iwcc.cc.ia.us/programs/AdvisementGuides/emsparamediccer.pdf

Below is the 2 year program/degree EMT-PS
http://iwcc.cc.ia.us/programs/AdvisementGuides/paramedicaas.pdf

And last the bridge does not seem to bad
http://iwcc.cc.ia.us/programs/departments/documents/InformationPacket7-08.pdf

I'm just not sure how much the EMT-I/99 is looked upon as employer and in the EMS community.

Overall I'd like to hit the EMT-PS

Thanks again
 
The EMT-I just tells me you wanted the skills w/o the education. I would take the Paramedic. Yes some services want the EMT-I so they can say they have ALS ambulances but not have to pay near as much for them. Stay away from services like that as to them patient care does not come first.
 
medic417 said:
The EMT-I just tells me you wanted the skills w/o the education. I would take the Paramedic. Yes some services want the EMT-I so they can say they have ALS ambulances but not have to pay near as much for them. Stay away from services like that as to them patient care does not come first.
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Thanks for the reply

I do not want to come off wrong or sound bad, I do want the education and the reason I asked is EMT-I 85/99 are offered at alot of the community schools and such here. I just was not sure if I should skip the EMT-I 85 and 99 and remain Basic EMT and work on the 2 year or is it worth picking up the EMT-I along the way.

I might be able to pick up a job as an EMT-I over an Basic and get more needed hands on , experiance vs just hanging around the rural volunteer are waiting.

Most likely the route seems to just remain basic and slowly get the degree and skills which sadly might take 3 full years. I'm only able to do it at a part time rate atm.

Sorry for the confusion
 
Sizz said:
Hello all

I'm soon going to be at a point in my ems training where I decide to take the EMT-I-99 or get the 2 year degree A.A.S with the Paramedic Specialist.

I'd like to get the paramedic specialist of course but things are tough for work/time and such.

My questions is do you think its a waste for the EMT-I-99(Iowa paramedic)

Also I could bridge over below to the Paramedic Specialist after I take the state/NR for EMT-I-99 and practice as an Iowa medic.

Below link is the Certificate program for EMT-I 99
http://iwcc.cc.ia.us/programs/AdvisementGuides/emsparamediccer.pdf

Below is the 2 year program/degree EMT-PS
http://iwcc.cc.ia.us/programs/AdvisementGuides/paramedicaas.pdf

And last the bridge does not seem to bad
http://iwcc.cc.ia.us/programs/departments/documents/InformationPacket7-08.pdf

I'm just not sure how much the EMT-I/99 is looked upon as employer and in the EMS community.

Overall I'd like to hit the EMT-PS

Thanks again
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The NREMT I-99 is obsolete now and will not be recertifying any more as the new standards are being placed. Iowa is one of the few that have made a bridge course for such programs.

R/r 911
 
If your in the position to get through the medic program without putting undue strain on the other areas of your life I say go for it. I'm not sure what your CE and skills maintenance will require but you need to check carefully. Unless your with a busy agency you will be short of IV starts and will most likely need to pick them up in the ER,if your agency has that ability. I just let my IV tech cert expire because with working almost 80 hours a week I did not have the time or resources to keep up with skills maintenance. I now am logging blood draws when I work in the ER and will have to re-cert when I get caught up.

I don't know of any agencies that consider rigs with EMT-I's ALS at least not in my state, all EMT-I steps are ILS. In my area we use EMT-I's as PMA's(paramedic assistants),it is what most 911 cars that are not duel medic run. You may not like the position but it does expose you to a great deal of experience and would be nice while you wait for a better time to advance your education. Without knowing more about your years of experience or what your current duties involve its hard to say for sure if there would be any benefit to getting the I-99 before you continue on to medic school.
 
Intermediate EMTs are involved in ALS. Not sure where the term ILS comes from.

Afterall, EMT-I is becoming Advanced EMT.
 
Here at least ILS is the ability to manually defibrillate and start an IV line, everything beyond that is ALS and everything below is BLS.

If I were you I'd go with the Paramedic degree.
 
I believe what I'll do is pick up EMT-I/85 circu which will allow a little more trauma training in Iowa and IV therapy. Then advance into EMT-PS and go for the A.A.S degree.

Thank you for the posts everyone again and keep the input coming!
 
Anyone else from Iowa / Omaha area?
 
bstone said:
Intermediate EMTs are involved in ALS. Not sure where the term ILS comes from.

Afterall, EMT-I is becoming Advanced EMT.
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Stone,

Funny thing - PA's new EMS act defines AEMT as an advanced provider for recertification and skills... but the only thing defined as ALS is an ambulance or chase car with a PA EMT-P onboard. AEMT=BLS level ambulance... no definition of an ILS truck.
 
Jon said:
Stone,

Funny thing - PA's new EMS act defines AEMT as an advanced provider for recertification and skills... but the only thing defined as ALS is an ambulance or chase car with a PA EMT-P onboard. AEMT=BLS level ambulance... no definition of an ILS truck.
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Sizz,

I'm confused by the links you posted. One is for Paramedic, and the writing SAYS you'll be taking the NREMT-P exam. The other describes a Paramedic Specialist level... can anyone explain this level?
 
Iowa Paramedic Specialist

I can exsplain this level to you. first I want to say to Sizz if you are looking at becoming a Paramedic Specialsit I would go for Iowa Paramedic the EMT-I99 this is a quick way of learning all the ALS skills of a paramedic and all als services here in Iowa both volunteer and Commercial will hire or take EMT-I99. you will gain valuable skills and get to practice while becoming a Paramedic Specialist.

Now to answer what is a paramedic specialist. here in Iowa we have two diffrent paramedic levels the first one is Iowa Paramedic the EMT-Intermeditae 99 and then we have a specialist level the Paramedic which is the highest EMS provider the diffirence is the Paramedic has more hours 1800 verus the 900 the EMT-I99 has. Iowa has taken the EMT-I99 and called it "Iowa Paramedic" in hopes of getting more communites in the state to have ACLs available. i hope this helps.

I live in Sheldon Iowa and am taking the EMT-I99 course and then will take the paramedic bridge course as my schedual at work only allows me time for the EMT-I99 course.
 
Dakota/IowaMedic said:
I can exsplain this level to you. first I want to say to Sizz if you are looking at becoming a Paramedic Specialsit I would go for Iowa Paramedic the EMT-I99 this is a quick way of learning all the ALS skills of a paramedic and all als services here in Iowa both volunteer and Commercial will hire or take EMT-I99. you will gain valuable skills and get to practice while becoming a Paramedic Specialist.

Now to answer what is a paramedic specialist. here in Iowa we have two diffrent paramedic levels the first one is Iowa Paramedic the EMT-Intermeditae 99 and then we have a specialist level the Paramedic which is the highest EMS provider the diffirence is the Paramedic has more hours 1800 verus the 900 the EMT-I99 has. Iowa has taken the EMT-I99 and called it "Iowa Paramedic" in hopes of getting more communites in the state to have ACLs available. i hope this helps.

I live in Sheldon Iowa and am taking the EMT-I99 course and then will take the paramedic bridge course as my schedual at work only allows me time for the EMT-I99 course.
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So decieving the public and giving them a false sense of security. Shame on Iowa.
 
As well, limiting that level only to Iowa. No other state will recognize it past the I-85 and within a few months NREMT will have abolished and those that want to be NREMT recognized either has to complete the Paramedic exam or go to the I-85 level.

R/r 911
 
EMT-Intermediate99 VS Paramedic Specialist

No Iowa is not confusing the public. We have the following EMS Levels in the state.

First Responder/EMR

EMT-Basic

EMT-Intermediate/85

EMT-Intermediate99/Iowa Paramedic

EMT-Paramedic

Iowa has gone to great lengths to ensure the citizen of Iowa know the diffrence in levels of Emergency responders. All Iowa Paramedic (EMT-I99) have to have their National Registery EMT-Intermediate Patch displayed on their uniforms as well as their Iowa Paramedic patch underneith their state patch so there is no confusion. Iowa follows the national standards on EMS. Iowa thought that by offering the EMT-I99 course and caling it a "paramedic" that all communities in Iowa would have a access to Advanced Cardiac Life Support. since becoming an EMT-I99 takes less time and money than it does to become a Paramedic. majority of volunteer ambulances and fire depts here in Iowa are EMT-I99 level services with Paramedic service back up if needed.
 
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So... err... what's wrong with calling an I/99 an I/99? What's next, calling PAs and NPs physicians?
 
Dakota/IowaMedic said:
No Iowa is not confusing the public. We have the following EMS Levels in the state.

First Responder/EMR

EMT-Basic

EMT-Intermediate/85

EMT-Intermediate99/Iowa Paramedic

EMT-Paramedic

Iowa has gone to great lengths to ensure the citizen of Iowa know the diffrence in levels of Emergency responders. All Iowa Paramedic (EMT-I99) have to have their National Registery EMT-Intermediate Patch displayed on their uniforms as well as their Iowa Paramedic patch underneith their state patch so there is no confusion. Iowa follows the national standards on EMS. Iowa thought that by offering the EMT-I99 course and caling it a "paramedic" that all communities in Iowa would have a access to Advanced Cardiac Life Support. since becoming an EMT-I99 takes less time and money than it does to become a Paramedic. majority of volunteer ambulances and fire depts here in Iowa are EMT-I99 level services with Paramedic service back up if needed.
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LOL that is just silly. Than you clearly do not follow national standards.
 
Whoa see why i was confused too?! Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm by no means wanting the easy way out Im currently finishing up some Gen Eds and hopefully will get my path picked.

Thanks for the replies and updated info Dakota/Iowamedic.
 
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