dadotwins
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Its been rumored that the State of Kentucky will be starting an EMT-A program. What does an EMT-A do? Can anyone out there confirm this rumor. Thanx.
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It is my understanding that the terms "EMT-Advanced" and "EMT-Paramedic" are interchangeable. Others may be able to offer additional information specific to Kentucky.
http://kbems.kctcs.edu/release_07-17.html
What does that bring the count to for different certifications in the U.S.? 50 or 51?
What does that bring the count to for different certifications in the U.S.? 50 or 51?
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EMT- A = Ambulance, Advanced, Basic? I am sure, that it is as Vent described and I believe the count is now over 150+ acronyms and we get upset seeing something after RN or MD....
Advanced is just another excuse of not having to pay for a Paramedic, and NO it is not the same or they would be called Paramedic... Remember, any other level is just an alternative for the Paramedic standard.
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Advanced is just another excuse of not having to pay for a Paramedic, and NO it is not the same or they would be called Paramedic... Remember, any other level is just an alternative for the Paramedic standard.
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I agree. It's completely unnecessary to use it as a stepping stone between the two levels of care. I've got a pamphlet around here from a few years ago about the number of EMS providers licensed in MI. I forget the figures exactly, but there were more than twice as many medics as there were specialists. It's a nice thought but it doesn't seem that many actually bother. I suspect the majority of them are people not planning on staying in EMS for long but wanted to do something more involved than basic. I couldn't see spending the time to do Paramedic and then leave the field a few years later.
Well, I'm spending the time to leave the specific field a few years later. However, as for the note on Michigan, I think that has a lot to do with the wonderful programs we have here. Namely, LCC. They don't even offer the choice of stopping somewhere between Basic and Medic.
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Not to get too far off subject, but it is my understanding that most community colleges in Michigan no longer offer the "EMT-Intermediate/Specialist" level, as few communities recognize the value. Of course you'll find some rural colleges offer the option, but they're in the minority.
As far as the quality of EMS in general, I've found that colleges usually have a higher standard than private programs. Of course there will always be exceptions, but that's my take on it.
No one should offer them. Call me simple, but that's how I like things. Simple. And I think EMS works better when it's simple. You have the Basic, and you have the Paramedic. I can think of no benefit to a category of EMTs that have almost every skill a paramedic does without the small, additional amount of knowledge and training. Honestly, I think anyone who goes for EMT-A over Paramedic is cheating themselves. With it being such a minimal extra commitment, it's foolish not to go the full way.
Everywhere should have a higher standard. Not just colleges like LCC. Even private programs. Especially private programs.
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You make it sound so simple! You'd be amazed at how many people are only a semester away from a college degree, but never finished it.
If I had to go to college full time for a year to get an EMT-Paramedic license instead of the EMT-B I have, I wouldn't be an EMT. I think you'll find that the Paramedic program includes a far more technical knowledge than the EMT-I program, and I'm sure that's why some never went for the EMT-P.
In a perfect world we'd all be highly trained and qualified Paramedics, but that's not the state of EMS at this point. I just can't stand places that allow you to get an Intermediate license when the surrounding counties won't even recognize it.
If I had to go to college full time for a year to get an EMT-Paramedic license instead of the EMT-B I have, I wouldn't be an EMT. I think you'll find that the Paramedic program includes a far more technical knowledge than the EMT-I program, and I'm sure that's why some never went for the EMT-P.
In a perfect world we'd all be highly trained and qualified Paramedics, but that's not the state of EMS at this point. I just can't stand places that allow you to get an Intermediate license when the surrounding counties won't even recognize it.
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I'm guilty of being 1 semester away from a degree... yet haven't done anything about it.
The thing is, while some of us would rather go right from basic to paramedic, many people either can't meet the demands of doing a paramedic program or just don't want to proceed above intermediate or basic. It's not a perfect world.
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EMT-A and acronym proliferation
Well, used to mean "EMT-Ambulance" way back when the amphibians crawled out onto land. Almost immeidately variousn states, including California, started making up their own little slices (They came up with "EMT-IV" almost at once). One instance where I think a natinal standard needs to be enforced, NAEMT or such as the arbiter, and reciprocity established.
Unless two programs are "articulated" (i.e., the credits in one program constitute the initial credits on the next higher and the certificate for the lower program is just sort of a "placekeper") go for the gold, don't take unnecessary time "ratcheting up". A lot of people have done the same with LVN then RN...just GO for it.
Well, used to mean "EMT-Ambulance" way back when the amphibians crawled out onto land. Almost immeidately variousn states, including California, started making up their own little slices (They came up with "EMT-IV" almost at once). One instance where I think a natinal standard needs to be enforced, NAEMT or such as the arbiter, and reciprocity established.
Unless two programs are "articulated" (i.e., the credits in one program constitute the initial credits on the next higher and the certificate for the lower program is just sort of a "placekeper") go for the gold, don't take unnecessary time "ratcheting up". A lot of people have done the same with LVN then RN...just GO for it.
I hope no one from that state or any state that has more than 2 levels ever complains "the public doesn't know who we are!"
Now explain this to the public:
"I'm an AEMT, not an EMT-B!" "He's an AEMT, not a Paramedic. I'm the Paramedic!" He's a FF and an EMT which is different from the private company AEMT who transports. He's an EMT-B in training for AEMT which is not quite an EMT-P. No, he's an AEMT in training for an EMT-P. He's an EMT-P with the FD which doesn't transport. "He's sorta like a Paramedic but not really.' He's more than an EMT-B but not really a Paramedic.
And then, you have states with as many as 6 different levels.
Now explain this to the public:
"I'm an AEMT, not an EMT-B!" "He's an AEMT, not a Paramedic. I'm the Paramedic!" He's a FF and an EMT which is different from the private company AEMT who transports. He's an EMT-B in training for AEMT which is not quite an EMT-P. No, he's an AEMT in training for an EMT-P. He's an EMT-P with the FD which doesn't transport. "He's sorta like a Paramedic but not really.' He's more than an EMT-B but not really a Paramedic.
And then, you have states with as many as 6 different levels.
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To get back to the topic of this thread, yes they will be adding the AEMT, the A is for advanced and here is a link to an article with the Kentucky ems connection http://www.hultgren.org/news/08/08-046.html.
I have a feeling this measure is to go along the lines of what National Registry is going to do because they are eliminating the Intermediate level in 2010 and replacing it with the EMT advanced witch would operate at a modified standard that was used by the intermediate 85 level.
This link should help show a little of what the A might be able to do
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Technician_-_Intermediate
To get back to the topic of this thread, yes they will be adding the AEMT, the A is for advanced and here is a link to an article with the Kentucky ems connection http://www.hultgren.org/news/08/08-046.html.
I have a feeling this measure is to go along the lines of what National Registry is going to do because they are eliminating the Intermediate level in 2010 and replacing it with the EMT advanced witch would operate at a modified standard that was used by the intermediate 85 level.
This link should help show a little of what the A might be able to do
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Technician_-_Intermediate