CONSUMER ALERT - EMT alert card is a scam

Ok. This Thread is FAST heading towards a lock... this is a VERY rare thing in EMTlife Land.

SirMontu - do you have a buisness intrest in EMT Alert? I would venture to guess that you have some reason to want to "defend them" against "slander" - this sort of devotion is often finacially motivated. Are you even an EMT/Medic/Student?

You showed up, joined, and then dragged a post that had been dormant for 2 weeks back to life. The thread would probably have just DIED anyway if you HADN'T said anything.

Ok... There have been many complaints about "this sort" of marketing across the county recenty... "Scare Tactics" are not an ethical way to sell or make a living.

You talk of "I've fallen and can't get up" buttons - I looked at their website... The only service I saw was the ID Card and computer-based record system... no pricing info, no "alert" pendants... NOTHING other than the card system. Granted, I didn't start to "sign up" becuase I have no desire to want this service at ANY cost.
 
Okay, I'm not a forum administrator, but I think it's in everyone's best interest if personal questions and attacks are stopped. It's against forum rules, and it's only going to lead to more problems in the furture.

Some people have expressed their views on the product/service, and others have expressed differing views - that's what this forum is about, but not arguments and heated debates. So be it; end of story.
 
I am a forum adminsitrator and I've received complaints about this thread. At this time, I don't feel that it has gotten out of hand yet but it is heading that way unless some people calm down.

So for the last time, everyone needs to calm down and...

KEEP IT CIVIL!
 
Just wanted to add one last thing just to respond to a few questions

-- Keeping it Civil

The only reason I found this forum is because this issue was listed as the 4th result in google, for EMT Alert Scam. And as my wife uses their service I do not wish to see this company hurt as they have saved my wifes life mutliple times. So even though it may have been idle for the users of this forum it is very much alive for those looking to see if EMT Alert is a Scam which as I view is not.

The buttons and the medical alert system is not listed on their site as I come to find out when calling them, their main course for advertising is through telemarketing and does not rely on people visiting their site to sign up.

I view this as something a lot of companies still do even with a website. As most people who need help do not recognize that they need it. Take an Alcoholic for an example, I view elderly in the same manner. Heck I know a town where the elderly drive down the wrong side of the road thinking they are on the correct side and get out of there car and start yelling at 4 and 5 cars heading towards them for driving on the wrong side of the street.

But all in all, I hope the Tx AG does the right then and announces his incorrect assumption when his investigation is done. Though he is known for not doing this.
 
ffemt8978 said:
I am a forum adminsitrator and I've received complaints about this thread. At this time, I don't feel that it has gotten out of hand yet but it is heading that way unless some people calm down.

So for the last time, everyone needs to calm down and...

KEEP IT CIVIL!
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Complaints from who, SirMontu? While I agree with you about keeping it civil, if there is any part of this thread that has truly offended anyone then a) they need not read it, and b) should realize that this is an online forum where personal opinions are written behind a computer screen. If anyone in EMS finds this form of communication offensive to the point of actually complaining to an administrator, then they may wish to reconsider their career choice......

Just my humble opinion of course................
 
Flight-LP said:
Complaints from who, SirMontu?
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Please don't confuse me with SirMontu.

And no, I won't tell you who complained.
 
SirMontu said:
Just wanted to add one last thing just to respond to a few questions

-- Keeping it Civil

The only reason I found this forum is because this issue was listed as the 4th result in google, for EMT Alert Scam. And as my wife uses their service I do not wish to see this company hurt as they have saved my wifes life mutliple times. So even though it may have been idle for the users of this forum it is very much alive for those looking to see if EMT Alert is a Scam which as I view is not.

The buttons and the medical alert system is not listed on their site as I come to find out when calling them, their main course for advertising is through telemarketing and does not rely on people visiting their site to sign up.

I view this as something a lot of companies still do even with a website. As most people who need help do not recognize that they need it. Take an Alcoholic for an example, I view elderly in the same manner. Heck I know a town where the elderly drive down the wrong side of the road thinking they are on the correct side and get out of there car and start yelling at 4 and 5 cars heading towards them for driving on the wrong side of the street.

But all in all, I hope the Tx AG does the right then and announces his incorrect assumption when his investigation is done. Though he is known for not doing this.
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Why do you suppose that they do not advertise this "priceless" service on their website? Call me an idiot, but if I had a hot product, one that will be the center focus of my influx of income, then I would advertise it to the best of my abilities through any media available, NOT through obsolete cold calling techniques.

You stand behind them based on your personal dealings, thats great, I am glad that they were there to assist your wife. And while you were on the road to reputation recovery here at EMT Life, you fail to follow your own advise and state that Greg Abbott fails to "announce his incorrect assumption" and thus the pot calling the kettle black..............

You can't help those who do not wish to help themselves. The elderly as a whole has more faculties than most of us do and that fact needs to be respected, not looked at like a damn disability. Sorry your drivers can't keep it on the right side of the road, to me it sounds like a failure of the part of your Law Enforcement agencies who aren't getting them off the road.

In summation, a thread on an online forum will not harm a reputable company, but could be trouble for one that is not. Something to think about..
 
ffemt8978 said:
Please don't confuse me with SirMontu.

And no, I won't tell you who complained.
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No confusion what so ever my administrative friend :)
 
ffemt8978 said:
I am a forum adminsitrator and I've received complaints about this thread. At this time, I don't feel that it has gotten out of hand yet but it is heading that way unless some people calm down.

So for the last time, everyone needs to calm down and...

KEEP IT CIVIL!
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I apologize for offending anyone... I think I went a little too far with my last post...

Sorry.
 
Ok, let's stop this nitpicking and come back to the main point of this thread and the statement made by the AG: people were scammed by unknown sources into buying these products because they claimed they were required if people wanted to be helped by emergency services. AND the fact that the EMT Alert cards are pretty expensive and will be useless to anyone who has been scared into buying them if the emergency services in their areas don't use them. Period.
 
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TCERT1987 said:
AND the fact that the EMT Alert cards are pretty expensive and will be useless to anyone who has been scared into buying them if the emergency services in their areas don't use them. Period.
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Good point. I don't know about everyone else, but I generally do NOT go searching through my patients pockets/wallets/purses looking for a card that they may or may not have and that may or may not help me.

I treat what I see and then I transport. I leave it to the hospital to do things like that.
 
SirMontu said:
Think about it, everyone screws up. Im "sure" that you have a squeeky clean life and you've always gone to church and repented your sins. Grow up.
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Disagreement doesn't equate to immaturity.
 
ffemt8978 said:
Good point. I don't know about everyone else, but I generally do NOT go searching through my patients pockets/wallets/purses looking for a card that they may or may not have and that may or may not help me.

I treat what I see and then I transport. I leave it to the hospital to do things like that.
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Around here... I let the PD do that.... I just take thier license to copy info for my chart...

This also means that I don't get the needlestick injury.
 
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