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Anyone going to the state EMS conference?
 
I wish, but have to work.
 
I just got back from there. The conference was pretty good, most of the classes I had taken were nothing new, just review of stuff I already knew. I really liked the lecture on non-epinephrine based resuscitation. As soon as it was finished I was looking up Theophylline, Vasopressin, and cardiac arrest blood pressures. All really fascinating stuff.
 
sir.shocksalot said:
I just got back from there. The conference was pretty good, most of the classes I had taken were nothing new, just review of stuff I already knew. I really liked the lecture on non-epinephrine based resuscitation. As soon as it was finished I was looking up Theophylline, Vasopressin, and cardiac arrest blood pressures. All really fascinating stuff.
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They prescribing more coffee for codes?
 
sir.shocksalot said:
I just got back from there. The conference was pretty good, most of the classes I had taken were nothing new, just review of stuff I already knew.
Indeed... critical care grand rounds was interesting. The Smart Cardiac Arrest was a great review of thinking beyond the script. Some talks were too basic.


I really liked the lecture on non-epinephrine based resuscitation. As soon as it was finished I was looking up Theophylline, Vasopressin, and cardiac arrest blood pressures. All really fascinating stuff.
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That guy came off a bit too much like a salesman. I didn't appreciate his "oh yea... there's some systems getting 70% plus survival to discharge rates!" Then failing to provide any studies or concrete numbers or even protocols.

He was too busy trying to "blow your mind" in a room full of people who had already implemented much of what he was proposing... or who at least had read a lot of the studies from late 90s early 2000s that he was referencing.

That was probably a groundbreaking EMS talk 5-10 years ago.

That said, he did have some new information to offer that was interesting if you looked up for yourself what he was alluding to.
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medic417 said:
They prescribing more coffee for codes?
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Ha basically. Apparently it works great for adenosine blockade which some scientists think adenosine is responsible for some refractory asystolic/brady arrests. http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=706124
Also I misspoke its actually aminophylline they are using.
Summit said:
Indeed... critical care grand rounds was interesting. The Smart Cardiac Arrest was a great review of thinking beyond the script. Some talks were too basic.




That guy came off a bit too much like a salesman. I didn't appreciate his "oh yea... there's some systems getting 70% plus survival to discharge rates!" Then failing to provide any studies or concrete numbers or even protocols.

He was too busy trying to "blow your mind" in a room full of people who had already implemented much of what he was proposing... or who at least had read a lot of the studies from late 90s early 2000s that he was referencing.

That was probably a groundbreaking EMS talk 5-10 years ago.

That said, he did have some new information to offer that was interesting if you looked up for yourself what he was alluding to.
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I do admit the beginning part of his talk was a lot of ho hum stuff we have been doing for a while. Therapeutic hypothermia, using amioderone, and capnography are all stuff we have been doing for at least 3-4 years. It was the last part of his lecture that I really found to be new information to me.

The smart cardiac arrest was a good lecture, unfortunately I have heard it before... in paramedic school actually... from the same person :D
But I agree regarding thinking beyond the script, having been on several arrests where I was not running the arrest and watching the medic completely lose sight of the etiology of the arrest and focus on following a silly algorithm that clearly won't work. I don't think enough medics really think about the H and Ts during an arrest.

Overall I will agree that they tried to include all levels of EMS providers by splitting the middle in complexity. From the EMTs I was hanging out with it seemed like a lot of them felt like some of the material was over their head, but I felt like it was oversimplified. I think next year they should separate it out to ALS and BLS classes so that medics aren't hearing about what a B2 agonist is and EMTs aren't hearing about osbourne waves in hypercalcemia and hypothermia.
 
sir.shocksalot said:
The smart cardiac arrest was a good lecture, unfortunately I have heard it before... in paramedic school actually... from the same person :D
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He is impressive. I enjoyed his diagnostic follies talk.
 
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