frdude1000
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We have to find a sub of equal or higher training, but then again I'm a volunteer.
calling in sick
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What people should do is if Management's policies basically force you to come in sick, make sure you have nice, long winded conversations with said management as much as possible. After a couple managers getting sick from contact with sick employees, you just might see them lighten up the sick time policy.
slb862
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I like to call in "dead"...
J/K
:blush: :unsure: :wacko:
J/K
:blush: :unsure: :wacko:Brown is interested to see if you guys get paid sick time; Brown hears its not very common in the US.
We get 5 days paid a year by law but most places give you 10, we get 10.
Oh and for those Clawson people, the fun calls are the "Omega" level calls, basically lower than an A.
We get 5 days paid a year by law but most places give you 10, we get 10.
Oh and for those Clawson people, the fun calls are the "Omega" level calls, basically lower than an A.
So do you have sick time and vacation time?
We have off time, it combines vacation and sick. It varies based on step from three weeks to eight weeks.
I'm old school - if I'm vomiting, running a temp over over 101, have diarrhea, or coughing up lung butter, I'll go in. I'll tell my supervisor how I feel, and if they want to send me home, then fine. At my dept, you can call in sick as much as you want, so long as it's at least two hours before start of shift, and you have the time banked.
There's a lot of sick leave abuse. People want to turn their four day break into six. If they enter a leave request on telestaff and it reads "more than 30," which means more than thirty requested the day off, they're not getting it. They'll take their name off, and just bang in for that day. I suspect many places that make it difficult to use vacation days see employees bang in for days they really need off, ratheer than request it. Some people do so much OT, that they bang in the next day so they can recover. Short timers need to burn their leave, so they'll bang in 3-5 times a month, sometimes more; they'll lose the time otherwise. I can't complain, though. I made an extra 40k last year due to the copious OT, and I didn't even try too hard. There's entirely too much anal glaucoma (you'll figure out what that means)/slick leave/soft leave going on.
In response, the county has run down two BLS buses every day from 1900 to 0700 and is sending the crew to fill OT holes. The county ran down it's one ALS 8 hour bus, and reassigned it's crew. The county is also taking office personnel, and detailing them out on a rotating basis to cover scheduling holes. They'll get a taste of the effects of their many new G.O.'s, SOP's, etc.
There's a lot of sick leave abuse. People want to turn their four day break into six. If they enter a leave request on telestaff and it reads "more than 30," which means more than thirty requested the day off, they're not getting it. They'll take their name off, and just bang in for that day. I suspect many places that make it difficult to use vacation days see employees bang in for days they really need off, ratheer than request it. Some people do so much OT, that they bang in the next day so they can recover. Short timers need to burn their leave, so they'll bang in 3-5 times a month, sometimes more; they'll lose the time otherwise. I can't complain, though. I made an extra 40k last year due to the copious OT, and I didn't even try too hard. There's entirely too much anal glaucoma (you'll figure out what that means)/slick leave/soft leave going on.
In response, the county has run down two BLS buses every day from 1900 to 0700 and is sending the crew to fill OT holes. The county ran down it's one ALS 8 hour bus, and reassigned it's crew. The county is also taking office personnel, and detailing them out on a rotating basis to cover scheduling holes. They'll get a taste of the effects of their many new G.O.'s, SOP's, etc.
Aidey
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I am disturbed to see the term "lung butter" is more common than I thought it was. *gag*
We accrue a certain amount of paid time off per pay period. How much is based on seniority, but it ends up being between 8 shifts and 16 shifts depending on where you fall. Our PTO is our sick and vacation time combined. We can go negative on sick time, but it has to be well documented, with all sorts of Drs notes and what not.
There is a problem with sick time abuse to a point. The biggest issue is that there are people who call in very frequently which is incredibly annoying as it often results in people being held over or mandatoried to fill the shift.
We have a rule about how many people can be out on PTO at once. Unfortunately people on LOAs or light duty also fall into that total. The end result is that you can have a vacation planned 6 months in advance, and if a week before you leave someone breaks their leg, your leave can be revoked. And if you call in sick for a day you requested off and your leave was rejected or revoked the company will withhold your pay for that shift until you can prove you were legitimately sick.
Under ordinary circumstances you only need a sick note if you are gone for 3 or more shifts in a row.
It does create a bit of a conundrum when trying to plan ahead. If you know you only need 2 days off, it is really tempting to call in sick rather than request the days off, because that way you don't have to worry about your leave being revoked. If your leave gets revoked, you can appeal to the boss to make an exception, but good luck with that.
Sorry about the lung butter. I can't shake my NY crudeness sometimes.
When our leave gets approved, we print out the telestaff page as proof, have our supervisor sign the proper form to validate the leave, and then make extra copies before filing the originals. That way, if the leave gets mysteriously rescinded by the "computer glitch," we have proof of approved leave, and it's upheld.
We also have a "no hold/recall" list that we pass around at lineup every morning. If we have travel plans, a doctor's appointment, or a doctor's appointment for our chilldren or spouse (if child care is an issue, or the spouse needs to be driven), then we can be safe from holdovers and recall. If we're working an exchange or OT, and the next day is a scheduled leave day, we can't be held, either.
When our leave gets approved, we print out the telestaff page as proof, have our supervisor sign the proper form to validate the leave, and then make extra copies before filing the originals. That way, if the leave gets mysteriously rescinded by the "computer glitch," we have proof of approved leave, and it's upheld.
We also have a "no hold/recall" list that we pass around at lineup every morning. If we have travel plans, a doctor's appointment, or a doctor's appointment for our chilldren or spouse (if child care is an issue, or the spouse needs to be driven), then we can be safe from holdovers and recall. If we're working an exchange or OT, and the next day is a scheduled leave day, we can't be held, either.
DrParasite
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I get 8 hours of sick time every pay period. and 10 hrs of vacation time (assuming you don't take vacation during that pay period of two weeks). So right now I have 113 sick hours, 40 vacation hours, and 40 personal hours.
Here is the rub: I can only use vacation time if my schedulers has a per diem to cover my shift. I can submit guaranteed vacation if no one else has requested it, and those requests are typically filed between Jan 1st and March 1st every years. So if your family decides to go on vacation in October, and they decide in april, you might not be approved for it, and you won't know if you are approved for it or not until Sept 1st.
Also despite having the 113 sick hours, I can't use them without being charged with abusing sick time (2 sick instances a quarter or 48 hours a year is the limit I think).
Hospital based EMS systems (where I work) and municipal based systems tend to have significantly better vacation and sick policies than for profit private companies.
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Shishkabob
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We get sick time, but I can't use it til may when I'm out of probation.
My partner was sick 1 week ago, went home early. I started to feel crappy before I started this 36hr shift, woke up with a really sore throat this morning, went to Walmart and stocked up on cough drops and oral anesthetics, and have been good today, having worked a code and an mvc.
I hardly ever call in sick, and when I do its because I'm puking and feel dizzy walking. Heck, I took my nr skills last year sick.
My partner was sick 1 week ago, went home early. I started to feel crappy before I started this 36hr shift, woke up with a really sore throat this morning, went to Walmart and stocked up on cough drops and oral anesthetics, and have been good today, having worked a code and an mvc.
I hardly ever call in sick, and when I do its because I'm puking and feel dizzy walking. Heck, I took my nr skills last year sick.
WolfmanHarris
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I went to check my collective agreement to confirm our sick days arrangement, but I already packed it for my pending move (first house).
If I recall correctly we get 11 days at 100% pay per year. We also get a number of days of short-term disability at 75% pay that increases with seniority. The counter to this is the attendance awareness program in which staff are enrolled when their sick time goes over a certain point. The attendance awareness program varies from counseling and support for staff in need of more time off due to prolonged illness or family crisis to progressive discipline for chronic absenteeism.
We also have the standard long term disability benefits through the government that allows extended time off with unemployment benefits for long term injury or illness.
Full time staff who are injured and cannot work on the road, but are still capable of working are placed on modified duty and transferred into HQ on the M-F 0830-1630 schedule. They're assigned to basic admin duties, posted in logistics or fleet and sometimes if enough people are on modified essentially watch paint dry. (Last year their was a bake sale for Haiti organized by our "Mod-Squad." I'm serious.)
If I recall correctly we get 11 days at 100% pay per year. We also get a number of days of short-term disability at 75% pay that increases with seniority. The counter to this is the attendance awareness program in which staff are enrolled when their sick time goes over a certain point. The attendance awareness program varies from counseling and support for staff in need of more time off due to prolonged illness or family crisis to progressive discipline for chronic absenteeism.
We also have the standard long term disability benefits through the government that allows extended time off with unemployment benefits for long term injury or illness.
Full time staff who are injured and cannot work on the road, but are still capable of working are placed on modified duty and transferred into HQ on the M-F 0830-1630 schedule. They're assigned to basic admin duties, posted in logistics or fleet and sometimes if enough people are on modified essentially watch paint dry. (Last year their was a bake sale for Haiti organized by our "Mod-Squad." I'm serious.)