2 Fla. medics pronounce live patient dead

[DrParasite]

https://www.ems1.com/patient-safety/articles/2-fla-medics-pronounce-live-patient-dead-XjOYoFNw6Z77fRFu/

how???? I understand the Lazarus Phenomenon might be a contributing factor... but did they run a strip to confirm a DOA? asystole in three leads? is it that difficult? were there other signs of obvious death?

There aren't two volunteer EMTs, these are two highly trained paramedics, who work as paramedics full time... is it just me, or are these occurrences happening more frequently?

 

[CCCSD]

Probably just using “technology” instead of developing real skills…

 

[Tigger]

Sounds like they didn’t use any “technology” at all. Can’t imagine how this happens when you put the monitor on for more than five seconds to observe asystole.

BLS here can and does cancel ALS for obvious death. Eventually the odds are an EMT crew will get this wrong. But medics?

Come on. Bring the monitor in and just put a four lead on.

 

[DrParasite]

 

[CCCSD]

Sounds like they didn’t use any “technology” at all. Can’t imagine how this happens when you put the monitor on for more than five seconds to observe asystole.

BLS here can and does cancel ALS for obvious death. Eventually the odds are an EMT crew will get this wrong. But medics?

Come on. Bring the monitor in and just put a four lead on.

I’m betting they spent a few minutes googling Death, then called it. Technology.

 

[Tigger]

I’m betting they spent a few minutes googling Death, then called it. Technology.

Probably would have been more effective than whatever happened.

 

[CCCSD]

Probably would have been more effective than whatever happened.

Apparently not at their level of education.
Maybe they should be allowed to challenge RN and sit the NCLEX...?