Not a good look

[ffemt8978]

Well, this certainly isn't how you're supposed to handle the situation, but there seems to be an underlying problem that is being ignored in favor of outrage.

Long Island fire chief Peter Alt caught cursing, yelling at distressed 10-year-old as she’s placed in ambulance: ‘Shut the f–k up’

“When you call for help — the police, the fire department — they’re supposed to help you. Not treat you like garbage. And curse at a child at that.”

nypost.com

 

[CCCSD]

Sounds like it’s based on a lack of parenting and abuse of the 911 system as a babysitting service.

A spanking years ago would have prevented this.

 

[ffemt8978]

Does make me wonder where all these crisis counselors that everyone claimed would help in these situations are.

 

[FiremanMike]

And of course grandma comes out of the woodwork to say she’s appalled.

Look I don’t condone cussing at a 10 year old, but just remember -

1. Read between the lines, “it’s like this with you every week” - abuse of 911? Pain in the ***? Patient verbally/physically abusive? We ALL have our limit, sounds like he reached his..

2. Everyone has a story that we don’t know about. That guy going through a divorce? Just came off a bad run? Long term PTSD? As I said, we all have our limits, but life factors can and do lower those limits.

This was a bad day and an inappropriate response to a 10 year old, but there’s likely so much more to this story that we’ll never know because the shock journalism is done and the followup wont get clicks.

 

[ffemt8978]

Shock journalism goes well with victim culture and not taking personal responsibility for your own actions. So much easier to blame everyone else instead of the real cause

 

[CCCSD]

Dr Spock and the ‘60s peace and love movements.

 

[mgr22]

I used to work in that system (not at that agency). I agree there are probably reasons why the chief responded the way he did, but what he said wouldn't have been acceptable for any reason during the 5+ years I was there. He made a mistake, for which he's apparently facing the same consequences any of us would for speaking to a difficult patient that way. I'm pretty sure he'll be told he has to be better than that.

 

[ffemt8978]

I used to work in that system (not at that agency). I agree there are probably reasons why the chief responded the way he did, but what he said wouldn't have been acceptable for any reason during the 5+ years I was there. He made a mistake, for which he's apparently facing the same consequences any of us would for speaking to a difficult patient that way. I'm pretty sure he'll be told he has to be better than that.

I have no issues with him facing reasonable consequences. I'm more concerned with the family's role in this overall situation

 

[mgr22]

I have no issues with him facing reasonable consequences. I'm more concerned with the family's role in this overall situation

I agree they both need attention.

 

[Tigger]

This isn’t shock journalism. This dude was screaming obscenities at a 10 year old. What sort of back story would make that action ok? This guy made a mistake and is disciplined for it. I hope the same would happen everywhere.

 

[ffemt8978]

This isn’t shock journalism. This dude was screaming obscenities at a 10 year old. What sort of back story would make that action ok? This guy made a mistake and is disciplined for it. I hope the same would happen everywhere.

Thanks for proving my point about dealing with the headline and ignoring the underlying issue.

Nobody said his actions were justified or that he shouldn't face consequences.

 

[FiremanMike]

This isn’t shock journalism. This dude was screaming obscenities at a 10 year old. What sort of back story would make that action ok? This guy made a mistake and is disciplined for it. I hope the same would happen everywhere.

I’m not saying this is the case, because there’s not enough info to say, but are you honestly saying you’ve NEVER lost your cool with an unruly frequent flier??

 

[Tigger]

I’m not saying this is the case, because there’s not enough info to say, but are you honestly saying you’ve NEVER lost your cool with an unruly frequent flier??

Not a ten year old one, no.

I’ve lost my cool a time or two, though nothing like this. And if it was on video and shown to my Chief, I’d expect to be disciplined.

 

[CCCSD]

Not a ten year old one, no.

I’ve lost my cool a time or two, though nothing like this. And if it was on video and shown to my Chief, I’d expect to be disciplined.

Once again: you missed the causative factor: Utter lack of parenting.

 

[Tigger]

Once again: you missed the causative factor: Utter lack of parenting.

There is no causative factor. It is not acceptable to explode at patients, especially pediatrics. You don’t like how patients talk to you? Deal with it in the truck, not to the patients.

This is an asinine conversation.

Talk about assumptions here. Do you know the backstory? Are you sure there are even parents involved? Of course not. Take your holier than thou “tough parenting” attitude elsewhere.

Why I bother to have these discussions with several people who are long out of treating patients is beyond me. Good riddance from our profession. Times have changed whether you like it or not.