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We are a small corps but we have a few junior corps members and I basically have run out of ideas for training to do with them. Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
Need a little more info. Can you describe your corps? Are you solely EMS or also fire? What is the diff between regular and junior? Are Jr members under 18 or are they just less active? Answering these will surely enable us to respond.
 
In order to tell you what training you can do, we have to know what training you haven't done, which would require you telling us what training you have done, so what training have you done?
 
Sorry about that. Jr. Corps members are under the age of 18. we are an ems corps only. So far we have done the basic splinting, equipment, rig checks, vitals, burns, minor injuries... I think thats it. We are waiting for a big enough class to do the first aid and cpr certifications. At this point we are looking for basic but fun and interesting things to do to keep their interest.
 
How many do you have that you can not do a CPR class or first aid? That was a requirment when I was a "youth corp" member years ago.
 
IMHO, sounds like you've done pretty much everything you can right now. Maybe you could set up a scenario that allows them to use and practice all the skills they've been taught so far?
 
This is a sticky issue. I believe that people under 18 (perhaps around 16) should be able to go through EMT training. When I lived in Israel I saw that 16 was a perfectly normal age for someone to take EMT training.

Of course many here disagree with me, but that is there choice.

As far as training, if you want it to be truly EMS geared then have then trained on most of the things that Basics use, just don't tell them it's the same as they would learn in EMT school (or do tell them). That way when they turn 18 and enroll in EMT school they'll be super ready.
 
Simulated MCI's are always a lot of fun.

You can also do a points competition to see who checks the most things during assessment. A little competition always helps get people into it.
 
I don't believe people under 18 should be in EMS. So I think what you could do is focus on school and learning, and wait 'til you hit 18.
 
I was a huge supporter of them for many years. But I've just seen too many of them go bad and end up hurting both the kids and the organization in a big way. The incidence of sexual impropriety in police and EMS youth, cadet, and Explorer programs is just too common to ignore. If it hasn't happened in yours yet, it either will, or else it has and nobody found out yet.
 
AJ Hidell said:
I was a huge supporter of them for many years. But I've just seen too many of them go bad and end up hurting both the kids and the organization in a big way. The incidence of sexual impropriety in police and EMS youth, cadet, and Explorer programs is just too common to ignore. If it hasn't happened in yours yet, it either will, or else it has and nobody found out yet.
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Sexual impropriety? Uh oh.

I do not agree with letting those under 18 seek EMT training or be certified to any level of EMS provider. I do not have an opinion ether way about explorer posts that let the kids ride along once a month and learn CPR.

Kids are not allowed to become certified RNs or RTs, there is no youth corp for wannabe MDs. We should follow suit. There are limited instances where children may shadow these guys, which can be rewarding for everyone, but anything beyond that takes away from our already dumpy level of professionalism.
 
So long as you've got a "few" members...put on a FA and CPR class... it shouldn't be difficult.

Then go on... put them through all the training you can, by law... if the state says First Responder and/or EMT are OK for 16 year olds... have them take those classes.

Involve them with the full squad for drill. Go play with the Fire Department... Do vehicle extrications. Set up a rehab station and do rehab practice when the FD is doing a structural burn or Haz-Mat training.

Go on tour - go to the 911 center. Go to a bigger town's EMS and see how it's run.

Bring folks in. Have the Haz mat team come in and demo and explain what they do. Do Haz-Mat Awareness. Contact your local aeromedical team and have them come and do a ground-ops class.
 
I know of no 16 year old Israeli EMTs who have been harassed due to their gender. Not saying it doesn't happen but it's not something that I fear of occurring on a large scale.
 
bstone said:
I know of no 16 year old Israeli EMTs who have been harassed due to their gender. Not saying it doesn't happen but it's not something that I fear of occurring on a large scale.
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We are not Israel.
 
Sasha said:
We are not Israel.
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Which is a shame. We can learn a lot from them. A real lot. No one has more experience in MCIs.
 
bstone said:
Which is a shame. We can learn a lot from them. A real lot. No one has more experience in MCIs.
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Because MCIs are frequent there. Take a look at Israel.

Your argument that there are 16 year old EMTs in Israel means nothing. They are two totally different countries. Children in Israel are subjected to such things from an early age. Most children in America are not.

What other serious medical profession allows children to be licensed/certified?

"EMS! So easy, a child could do it!" just screams "I'm a professional!" doesn't it?
 
*steps up onto his soap-box*

Individuals under the age of 18 have no business being allowed to, being in the process of, obtaining, or holding an EMT-B certification. We are not a hobby. We are a profession. At least, that's what we SHOULD be, anyway. The days of volunteer organizations having 20 members to respond at any given time are long gone. Volunteering may work just fine for firefighting, but EMS isn't firefighting. It's time for us to let what few volunteer organizations remain to fade away gracefully so that history will remember them fondly, but move on to what today's world requires... 24/7, guaranteed, quality assured, educated staffing. And I know, this probably sounds like a digression, but it actually brings me back to my original point. If you look at EMS as a profession, do you believe that children should be permitted to hold the qualifications required to be active in said profession? Would you really want your life or your familys' lives to be in the hands of somebody who can't even vote yet?

Explorers posts are fine in the same way that job-shadowing in other fields is fine. I'm not against the concept, hell, I'm an advisor for our local post. But wait until they're able to legally drive past 11pm or buy cigarettes* before you let them actually do anything in a real world setting.

* EMTinNEPA, while a smoker himself, does not advocate the use of tobacco products.
 
Sasha said:
Because MCIs are frequent there. Take a look at Israel.

Your argument that there are 16 year old EMTs in Israel means nothing. They are two totally different countries. Children in Israel are subjected to such things from an early age. Most children in America are not.

What other serious medical profession allows children to be licensed/certified?

"EMS! So easy, a child could do it!" just screams "I'm a professional!" doesn't it?
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EMS! No special skills required! Money back guarantee!
 
EMTinNEPA said:
*steps up onto his soap-box*

Individuals under the age of 18 have no business being allowed to, being in the process of, obtaining, or holding an EMT-B certification.
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What about the thousands of thousands Israeli 16 year old EMTs?
 
bstone said:
What about the thousands of thousands Israeli 16 year old EMTs?
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American 16 year olds and Israeli 16 year olds are two completely different sets of 16 year olds. Different exposure levels, probably different maturity levels as well.
 
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