When Sugar Turns Sour: A Look at Pediatric DKA

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Came across an interesting article, thought I'd share. The article refrences a pediatric assesment triangle which I'd never heard of before, so a bit of googling took me to this really good webpage (the triangle isdown towards the middle): http://www.lbfdtraining.com/Pages/emt/sectiond/pediatricassessment.html

When Sugar Turns Sour: A Look at Pediatric DKA
Full Article: http://www.ems1.com/ems-products/pe...hen-Sugar-Turns-Sour-A-Look-at-Pediatric-DKA/
"MS 154 respond to a child unconscious, non-responsive, unknown cause."

You arrive at the address and are met by the patient's mother. She tells you that her daughter is in bed and can't be awaken, as she's been sick for a few days. As you assess the scene and find it safe to continue your response, you are led to a bedroom where you hear moaning. From the doorway, you begin utilizing the Pediatric Assessment Triangle (PAT). General appearance is poor as the young girl is not responding to her father's voice. She is moaning and her lips appear dry. You continue towards her, introduce yourself, and notice her breathing is accelerated.

Two major "red flags" from the PAT exist; your initial thoughts have confirmed that this child is probably significantly sick and in need of a quick, yet safe transport to definitive care. Now at the patient's side, you feel her skin and find it cool to the touch, showing signs of dehydration, and mottled about the abdomen and thighs. Her capillary refill is slowed to four seconds distally, which is consistent with the weak distal pulses felt.

As you gather formal vital signs, the parents tell you that Kathy, an otherwise healthy nine-year-old girl, has had flu-like symptoms, nausea, and vomiting for about four days and they are worried that she's contracted the swine flu. Her vital signs are: Pulse = 142 beats per minute and weak distally, Respirations = 34 breaths per minute, BP = 88/40, Pulse Ox = 98 percent on room air. Because of her "cool to the touch" status, a tympanic temperature is taken and recorded to be 92.50 F (33.50 C). Her capillary refill is greater than three seconds and she is only responding to painful stimuli.
 
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ummm, your a paramedic? Did you not take PALS or PePP? Pediatric Triangle is taught in both courses. Great stuff though
 
ummm, your a paramedic? Did you not take PALS or PePP? Pediatric Triangle is taught in both courses. Great stuff though

I dont recall them using a pediatric assesment triangle or calling it that specifically? Perhaps they did but I don't remember. Lay off, dude.

I took PEPP but a very rinky "in house" version of it that skimmed over the material and we basically weren't allowed to fail.

By the way, glad to see you back, last I read you had left.
 
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Quick question, how is using the pediatric triangle any different from forming a general impression about any other patient? In my small experience, the vast majority of acutely sick patients look, well, sick. You can (and should) be developing a general impression about a patient as soon as you can see them. You don't have to be on top of a patient to get a general idea of the patient's skin color, interactiveness (level of consciousness and orientation), or quality of breathing.
 
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Sorry there, i meant to put a congrats after saying your a paramedic now. Got lost in thought about the pediatric triangle.
 
Wow: what I always tell new people has been named the 'assessment Triangle' good to know;
first 30 seconds on scene with patient: 4 things to do:
1: look at patient color and skin: (before you ever touch them) blue, pink, diaphoretic
2: look at their breathing: labored, soft, rapid, slow gone?
3: talk to the patient: "Hi my name is John, what is your name"? are they alert? look at you, move their head, scream at the sound of your voice?
4: touch their wrist: cool, clammy, hot, cold, diaphoretic stiff?
while holding their wrist get a quick 3-5 second pulse: fast, slow, strong, weak: missing?
do these things with every patient, every time; gets to be second nature; tells you as much info about that patient as the next 5-10 minutes of evaluation.
most important thing it will tell you is how SICK that patient is.
 
I remember seeing the PAT when we were in PEPP.




I was at Childrens Medical Center this past weekend, the only level 1 trauma peds center in Texas, and I was looking over a few of their current studies they are doing. One is giving 1.54% NS to DKA seeing it's effects... sadly I couldn't gain access to the current info they have.
 
I took PEPP but a very rinky "in house" version of it that skimmed over the material and we basically weren't allowed to fail.

It too bad that you were slighted in your education. :sad: The PEPP class is great when done right. If you get a chance, try and take it again or at the very least, see if you can get a textbook.
 
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