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Well, its time for me to head out. Its Cub Scout Family Camp time. Wish me luck!! I am SOOOO not a tent camper. But I have my tent, my cots, air mattresses, down filled comforter, and enough bug spray to kill anything that comes within 10 feet of my tent. OH an my battery operated fans. So we should really be roughing it this weekend!! :D

Will take some pics...maybe....wouldn't want to scare the bears off!!

See y'all Monday, If I am still alive.!!!
 
ROFL

you're a den mother now HAHAHAHAHAHA
I just can't picture it... so definitely send pics, I gotta see this!

Have fun! We'll be waiting for ya!
 
If you were to camp here, you'd need a boat too. My front yard is turning into a pond.

But at least the grass is green again!

Have fun.
 
Anyone else notice that she forgot her "Whacker Kit"?
 
I bet she stuck it somewhere. ;)
 
Are you kidding, I love tent camping! I usually go with a friend of mine, my dog, and my daughter, do the whole roast marshmallows and kumbayah thing, its pretty fun. Spent the 4th in a tent. I usually pack a cooler of cokes a cooler of smirnoff, water, hotdogs, hamburger meat and supplies, a queen size airmatress, a twin size airmatress, the dog bed, 4 person tent, dog food, sleeping bags, fleece comforter, a fan if it is hot, or a heater if it is cold and of course the whacker kit. :P

-CP, the only happy camper!
 
I have like six cases of MRE's in the cellar just for camping. I like to make it an adventure, so what better way than to live off of MREs? None..

Marshmallows are a given.

instant fire device, water proof matches, we have a two room tent, army cots w/ a small air mattress, and sleeping bags, two large air mattresses for assorted uses B) , swamp fan, lots of water, portable toilet kit, water purifing bottles, mosquito nets, portable shower, small whacker kit (otc meds, epi, stomach meds (for mre's :unsure: ), portable DVD player, battery pwr lanterns, various shelf stable snacks, and other necessary supplies. I like to fish, so that kind of stuff is necessary also.. If I feel like it, I take the boat, but only if we go to Canada, which I haven't done in a couple years. Why? B/c Canada has mosquitos the size of 747's.

Canada trips involve lots of US staple foods (b/c they cost more up there), lots of hidden alcohol (trauma bags are good for this), a couple guys from the station, of course our wives....
 
Originally posted by ffemt8978@Oct 15 2005, 02:21 AM
Anyone else notice that she forgot her "Whacker Kit"?
:D LOL...actually it was there. I had it on the floor of my backseat. Never know when your going to need 4x4's, splints, C-Collars, a BVM...or any of that stuff. Especially with 130 boys in the woods.

Luckily, the biggest injury was to an adults ego when they were forced to sing "I'm a Little Tea Pot" after he lost his blackberry and the Camp Master found it.

I did however forget the Marshmellows to go on the S'mores! DOH!!! :o

We did have fun though. I will put the pics in today and get some out there.

Of course, it was FREEZING at night - well in the 50'- but I am NOT A NORTHERNER anymore!! THAT WAS COLD!!!

I managed not to tip the canoe, even as my boy held on to the bar for dear life, yelling "MOM, Your gonna KILL us!!!" NO, I wasn't going to kill us, but being stuck on that damn lake until we starved to death was a real possibility. You see, I got us out there just fine. But I could not for the life of me, figure out how to make that stupid boat work so I could get us back in. There is definantly something to be said for a motor boat!

But the whole weekend was made worth it when on Sunday morning my boy woke up - at 0600 - and woke me up to tell me "Mom, this was the best weekend of my life."

AWWWW....he is the best!!
 
I just spent the weekend at a boy scout Camp-o-ree....

This was a "minimalist" event.... It was in a Farm field, no electric (Had a generator for the coffeepot) and no pavilions (so we had tarps).

I was one of 3 EMT's there on staff. 1 was also a scoutmaster, so he spent most of his time with his troop, but joined us to have fun with our bee sting, nose bleed, hyperextended knee, and foot puncture. He also did the paperwork.

The other EMT was also around for all our fun, and we transported our knee injury to Headquarters in his van.

Both the other EMT's have been doing this a while... the one has a PA cert # around 000370 :o (Mine is 148178... and that is 4 years old)


We had fun.


And I camped in my tent, with my therm-a-rest matress (original.... full length, 20in wide, 1in thick) and sleeping bag... no cot, no big air mattress. I stayed warm and dry.

And boy was I handsome in my scout uniform :D :D


Jon
 
130 of them?

Hell, I'd have brought along an ambulance for that. Can fit more in the travel-all than the caddy, but the criterion holds more as far as interior cabinets. It's just like a sprinter.

At least a couple H cylinders.. I tend to over plan.

MY EMT # Starts With 11***3.. Won't give my PA -P # b/c it has some of my SSN in it. :angry:

My uncle had an EMT # less than 10, as he was one of the first EMT's in the state, and my father has a current cert w/ a double digit#. When I ran back home, no matter where I went, people knew who he was. Even state officials had occasionally heard of him.
 
[Both the other EMT's have been doing this a while... the one has a PA cert # around 000370 (Mine is 148178... and that is 4 years old)]

See - I told you all that Pennsylvania people got thier EMT's with their driver's licenses.

Hand them right out like Candy. And you all thought I was just imagining everyone I met from PA was an EMT.!!!!!!! (LOL) :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by TTLWHKR@Oct 17 2005, 12:56 PM
130 of them?

Hell, I'd have brought along an ambulance for that. Can fit more in the travel-all than the caddy, but the criterion holds more as far as interior cabinets. It's just like a sprinter.

At least a couple H cylinders.. I tend to over plan.

MY EMT # Starts With 11***3.. Won't give my PA -P # b/c it has some of my SSN in it. :angry:

My uncle had an EMT # less than 10, as he was one of the first EMT's in the state, and my father has a current cert w/ a double digit#. When I ran back home, no matter where I went, people knew who he was. Even state officials had occasionally heard of him.
yeah.... my county has either 2 or 3 EMT's who are still active with their 3 digit number... they were all in the first EMT class in the county.

Jon
 
Originally posted by Margaritaville@Oct 17 2005, 02:46 PM
[Both the other EMT's have been doing this a while... the one has a PA cert # around 000370 (Mine is 148178... and that is 4 years old)]

See - I told you all that Pennsylvania people got thier EMT's with their driver's licenses.

Hand them right out like Candy. And you all thought I was just imagining everyone I met from PA was an EMT.!!!!!!! (LOL) :rolleyes:
No..... they don't hand them out THAT fast.... I think they went to a 6-digit system before they were out of 4-digit numbers. And the other part is that the first 3 digits are by region, i think.... My county gave out 148148 to a student 3 months ahead of me.... there was one class inbetween theirs and mine.

Jon
 
Originally posted by EMTPrincess@Oct 17 2005, 09:28 AM




But the whole weekend was made worth it when on Sunday morning my boy woke up - at 0600 - and woke me up to tell me "Mom, this was the best weekend of my life."

Awww...definitely makes it worth it! :D
 
It's up to a seven digit number now.

The reason PA has so many EMT's, is because we have more volunteer firefighter and fire stations than any other state or single country of the world. We also have more voluntary EMS services than any other state. So of course, we've had a high number of EMT's. It's not that EMT's are idiots living in the past, it's the EMS system that is living in the past. And it's not like you'll find services that are in the past, b/c every ambulance in the commonwealth has to carry the same list of equipment. Some more than others, based on the region, but none less.
 
* Edited to add: IN NY...

Students coming out of class now are getting numbers like 384305.

My baby medic is 322***

Mine is 200948.... I think my BF is 187*** or something like that. I know a couple people who have 000040 type numbers.
 
Jon and Alex,

Don't take it personally. I was just joking. I think that I have a right to poke a little fun. After all, Every day that I work - I have at least one P.A. firefighter ask to purchase a T-shirt from my station. In the summer, there are at least 5 a day.

Because I am assigned to that station - I am always asked to "give a tour", or why we don't have tankers in the city, or why it says Paramedic Rescue on my vehicle, or why can't I let P.A. Emt's ride along. (they can, they just have to sign waivers and they can't do pt. care, because we don't recognize their cert.'s). And my all time favorite from a gentleman who stated that he was the "head" of one of the 911 centers up in Pa. - he said "We let our women be in the auxillary", to that I responded by getting into the engine (driver's seat) with my female partner in the jumpseat to go on a call. On the call I had to assume command. Upon our return, he was still at my station. He came to me as I was doing the fire report and said - man, we don't have the manpower for a lot of calls like these. I couldn't help myself - I stated "well, honey If you'd let your women folk ride than you'd have plenty of "manpower". Then I sold him 3 t-shirts and a patch!

Just to let you know - I am always cordial, willing to listen to how their dept's do whatever, and show them around. I only get a little testy when I am doing pt care and I hear those too familiar words "well I am a paramedic or EMT in Pa. and this isn't how we do it". Or when they take equipment off my vehicle, or steal our fire engines (thank god that wasn't on my shift). And I must admit at least once this summer I made the comment "believe it or not today is not my first day on the job".

I realize that all of these people are well meaning, and god bless them for what they do at home. Its just a small few who drive the rest of us batty. But for the most part I feel safe driving up that way!

Sorry if I offended you guys.
 
:o This is a long one.. First: Dumbing down of EMS
Second: Our Fire Service

Offended? :lol: Only people who are victims of the dumbing down of EMS should be offended, because it's their fault that ANYONE can get a card.

The way PA has dumbed down EMS in the past five years, you have a better chance at getting an EMT card than a frickin Library Card!

I was just creating conversation.

What would I have to be offended about? I'm not a paragod, I know I'm a good provider, a good EMT, and a damn good Paramedic, I just don't brag about it... The reason we have so many stupid providers is because they dumbed the course down, anyone can pass EVOC, anyone can Pass EMT, so... People who feel they can't so anything else get this free pass from the State Health Secretary and they get to a EMT Class that is equal to a Special Education Class. Not to offend those who actually have special needs.

I've been an EMT for 12 years, a paramedic for 7, I've graduated High School, I've gone to college, I've passed all of my classes. I've worked my *** off to get where I am, and I did it because this was my first choice as a career. It's the people who cannot accomplish anything else in life, and feel EMS is an easy way out that have the "free cards". They continue to dumb down the EMT classes so anyone and everyone can pass it. I am a certified instructor, and my father is also, we both share a view on "The dumbing down of EMS". I had a student in a class that never gave up, that is he took the class five years in a row and never passed. He never even came close to the necessary pass grade of 70. Now, the pass grade is down to 60. Until the state allowed him to use his text book for the test, and allowed him five extra minutes plus notes for the practical. Why, I asked my supervisor, I am empathetic to people with special needs, but that is in Public Schools. Not an EMT class, victims are going to depend on these people to save their lives. They can't stop next to someone who is about to die, and look it up in a text book. What are we trying to solve? It's not a lack of volunteers, I know hundreds of volunteer EMT's that are better than career EMT's. It's our economy. You can make more at McDonalds than driving a life support vehicle. It's simple to make money, you have to get a job, they pay you, and you have made a solution to your problem.
But to make money in EMS, you have to do a lot of training, and unless you are lucky, you aren't getting paid to train. You have to start somewhere. At then people can't make it with their initial plan on life, and they look at us. Wow, it would be so cool to drive an ambulance, and wear that uniform; the star of life, it stands for so much. But you can't just wear your pretty little uniform and drive an ambulance, you have to gain skills; maintain them, and be able to use them. When you can't do that, all you have is a piece of paper. Since they don't require testing to renew the EMT cards, you just have to sit and listen to 24 hours of someone like me talking about our job. So they get their new card, and continue to have absolutely no clue what that card is for... Brings a whole new meaning to "Meat Wagon". I can't help but think how many people were destined for McDonalds, but didn't quite make it to the door b/c we had a bus parked out front.

In conclusion..

NEVER park in front of a fast food joint...


Sorry to hijack the thread..

No offense to anyone who got a free card, this is just another one of my heartfelt, sarcastic ramblings. :P

They are probably attracted to all the money they dish out in Maryland. You would be surprised at how rural PA really is, we're not a suburb of Philly. Some entire counties have no water systems, tankers were our life line back home, that and dry hydrants. There was no money for fire companies before all these grants came about, our town was lucky to be able to buy what we needed. Some of the places we provided mutual aid to had 60 to 80 y/o fire apparatus. This was the mid-90's. They preached paid fire services for decades, yeah, that would be great they said, but how can you buy something with nothing. No tax funding, poor residents, low budgets. With in ten miles of my home, we had four separate fire stations. One had 7 modern apparatus, all new equipment, because they had planned their future since the 1850's. Another had a tanker and a pumper from a 1950's civil defense gift. One had a chief, a hoseman, and two drivers - their 1925 pumper worked occasionally, and finally the last was trying ever so hard to survive. They had a 1950's Jeep that towed a chemical extinguisher that was supposed to be hand drawn, and a 1940 pumper from WWII surplus. The rich ones had bad turn out gear, and old MSA SCBA's. They were the only company in our county that had turnout gear and SCBA equipment. But they all worked through it with pride, turned out to parades and marched proudly with their equipment that was 50 years beyond it's work life. This was 1995, and it was a modern world, every state around PA was advancing, and we were sitting still. Why? They had no money, at all. The communities in most of the state are too small to support a tax base that would fund modern, career fire stations. It's not that the volunteers are under trained, every county has a training program. They have three nationally recognized fire schools that travel all around the state and do training. But until the USFA and HS grants came about, Pennsylvania was, in a way, shut off from the world around it. Since those grants came out, back home the big company has new gear and new SCBA, and more have trained and purchased SCBA. Every station has gear, and not on single apparatus in service is more than 20 years old. We have always had the largest and strongest population of Volunteers in the Comm. of PA, but the service has aged, and if anything we have gotten stronger. Sure, we have weaknesses, but doesn't every aspect of Emergency Services? There are alot of good dept.'s that are getting better, that nobody ever hears about. We do have our whackers, but we look at MD as the whacker capitol of the US anyway. maybe we look poor to 'ya'll' down there b/c when there is money left over, we don't waste it. No offence, but I've been to the expositions, they display what people buy with the Gov't grants. I must say, a lot of stations that didn't need the money, sure are wasting it. What some of the FD's spend on just paint for their apparatus, would save the budget of several of the smallest VFD's in PA that were not given grants for less important things, like bunker gear. What ever happened to just red, and the town's name? Why waste grant money on a 20,000.00 cartoon character to brag about how good your three firemen and your EONE engine is from the next station with three firemen with the same training and the same exact engine.. Every station is different, it's like EMS, some are big, most are small; and then some have big dreams.
 
Alex,

Honey I feel your pain. It galls me that we have dropped the standards, and people still get upset that they have to "read" the books for real. Everyone thinks that EMT and Paramedic should be treated like MFRI classes. Teach to the test, not to think for yourselves. I got my EMT 21 years ago, and my CRT 10 years ago and P- 9 years ago. I went to a college class, and was made fun of for it. I have my college degree, and now in order to make officer - a degree is almost necessary. Now who is laughing!

I live in the country. Farm country and on the water. I have served many a spaghetti dinner to afford windshield wipers for an engine. I have also passed the hat to pay the electric bill at the fire house. Believe me, those city Departments in MD have no idea what it is like for the rest of us in the Vollie service. B)

I am fortunate enough to be paid for what I do. But I feel even more fortunate that I can go home to my small rural department as a volunteer and truly serve my community. It makes it all worth it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Alex, I don't know you personally, but I hope your department knows that you are a valuable member and credit to your service. I would feel blessed to have you as a partner any time!!!!!

BTW - we can sure throw a thread off in another direction, can't we?
 
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