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And why are you saying that you said that quote? I said that.

The part in your post (it wasn't included in what I quoted since the quote button leaves out other quotes. Blessing and a curse) you quoted that started the current profession v trade discussion was from me. The person you quoted didn't use the
 
What about them? The people who go on with their education don't constitute the majority of those in EMS. The overwhelming number are EMT's who work for private ambulance companies who tend to work for a few years until they figure out that they could be making more money doing something else.

I'm not putting down anyone or their efforts at becoming better at what they do, just stating some pretty obvious facts about the state of EMS today.

When those in the profession, industry, trade, whatever you want to call it, start demanding better education, more licensing, fewer guaranteed to pass schools, then it will become a profession worthy of the name.

One need only look at nursing and respiratory therapy for 2 solid examples of how a trade can become elevated to a profession. Those of you who are younger don't know what it was like just a relatively short period of time ago, anyone other than an MD were treated like crap in the medical field. Only when nurses and their unions took it upon themselves to elevate their education and training did their profession rise, along with their wages. Same thing happened to RT's and is slowly happening in other fields of medicine. Same thing MIGHT happen in EMS.

John E.
 
The part in your post (it wasn't included in what I quoted since the quote button leaves out other quotes. Blessing and a curse) you quoted that started the current profession v trade discussion was from me. The person you quoted didn't use the

Im still confused but no biggie=D
 
How, exactly, does that deal with the flawed notion that "class is just a formality?" The simple fact is that you should learn the concepts and theories in class in an environment where you won't be killing people. Sorry, but the real education happens in the classroom. Not that learning how to apply it (clinical experience) isn't important, but it's useless without having a base knowledge to build off of.

I agree that you need the basis of classroom in order to be able to practice in the field... I just found that with my EMT class (11yrs ago) it was about 30% of what I needed and learned the other 70% in the field. Paramedic was a much different story. I attended a very tough program and instantly saw in the field a difference between my level of education and that of some of the new medics who came out of other programs in my area. If I had to put numbers on Paramedic school it would be closer to the flip of the numbers I gave EMT, 70%class, 30%field. Alot of that is due to already having a field understanding from my time as an EMT.
 
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