Melclin
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Everytime I see somebody claim tracheal deviation as a late sign makes me want to manually deviate their trachea.
I have tried to hunt down the source of this misinformation and nearly a decade ago actually figured I narrowed down to where it comes from.
In many US paramedic texts, there are quotes out of context from actual medical textbooks. (with the language usually dumbed down) In this particular case, "tracheal deviation" as a sign was kept, but the definition was not, from surgical textbooks of the 70s and 80s.
Tracheal deviation is defined as 3mm or more from an imaginary line between the mental symphysis and the center of the suprasternal notch. It is not a late sign.
Even under the best of circumstances is difficult to detect and assumes normal fusion of the mandible and no variation in sternal position. However, using a piece of suture (I was taught how to look for it by an old school surgeon in the US) or another type of plane can help greatly in measuring.
The gross deviation which everyone imagines as "tracheal deviation" is a late sign, but by the time you actually see it, you really missed many earlier signs or you didn't get to the patient in time to really help. This seems to be what is passed down through EMS education but it is definately not the full story.
Perhaps the people who perpetuate it thought they figured out an obvious error that surgeons overlooked?
Is it really practical to be identifying such subtle changes in many prehospital environments (actual question, not rhetorical)? I get that its our job to be turning chaos into order to a degree, but there is a limit. You take a major trauma pt. Blunt pelvic, abdominal and chest trauma. They're proper sick but you don't quite have all the hands or space your need. You're pouring morphine into them but you're still not quite on top of their pain yet. They're moving about a lot. Screaming/talking/moaning. You feel like you're on top of most of the picture. They weren't obviously tensioning when you started but they've had a bit of fluid because you've been chasing some some ?pelvic trauma related haemodynamic instability, and they're still a bit dicey in that way. Their O2 sats drop a bit but you have to trouble shoot some pleth waveform issues on top of everything else. At some stage you have to move or are already moving down a bumpy road, rocking and rolling around in the back. I'm completely open to the idea that I might be wrong and that I should be managing my time better or something, but I just can't see a lot subtly happening in that environment, with the exception of some special situations.
Im surprised that you would have to wait for them to become so compromised before you intervene, toying with a respiratory arrest after they become hypoxic or intervening when the signs of poor perfusion are becoming evident i would have thought earlry intervention would be better than chasing the eight ball once they are ready to drop their bundle.
Yeah but the 'lowest common denominator' argument come in here. If you are captain of the good ship clinical practice guideline and you're sitting in the captain's chair one day thinking, "I've a ship's company of almost 3000. Some of them are barely capable of keeping their drool in the mouth. How do I go about proticolizing the sticking of large, sharp pieces of metal into an already profoundly sick person's chest?" Then the answer is probably, "when its painfully obvious that its needed".