Reforming Cali Terminology

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I don't know if this has been brought up before, and I deeply apologize if it has...

But has anybody heard of California "updating" the EMT ranking terminology? I just took my refresher, and the instructor was saying that there will no longer be "EMT-B's/EMT-1's" or "EMT-I's" but rather those will be called regular "EMT" instead. Since there aren't too many EMT-I's in California anyways (I think he mentioned double digits), it shouldn't be met with too much opposition. Some of the other implications of the change are that EMT-P's are now ONLY known as Paramedic. And "First Responders" are known as "EMR's" or Emergency Medical Responders. Funky, eh?

Did anybody else hear about this upcoming change? Any thoughts?
 
It's from the EMS Agenda for the Future: A Systems Approach (www.ems.gov > Education)

EMT-B > EMT
EMT-I > Advanced EMT
EMT-P > Paramedic

Note also the 94 B, 85/99 I and 98 P cirricula are going bye bye and being replaced by the 2009 national EMS education standards.

Sad I know more about these changes than some n' I live a zillion miles away huh, I think so.

.... Brown away :ph34r:
 
For information about the new levels and the NREMT:

http://www.emtlife.com/showthread.php?t=15726


And "First Responders" are known as "EMR's" or Emergency Medical Responders. Funky, eh?
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The term First Responder can apply to anyone responding to a scene regardless of training. At least the words "Emergency Medical" implies you might have some training in emergency first aid.
 
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Seaglass said:
It'll be great if they can get states to adopt it, too. Otherwise, I'm not sure what practical difference it makes.
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If they use the NR, the new titles will be used for testing.

I doubt if a state as broke as California will want to create a state test and attempt to put up the costs of managing it. That goes for just about any state that is currently using the NR. Even FL went to the NREMT for the EMT exam. Testing is very expensive and it is less costly to have it administered through a national testing agency.

The new levels are not that big of a stretch but are long over due. Many of the college based programs will adapt with very few problems.
 
VentMedic said:
If they use the NR, the new titles will be used for testing.

I doubt if a state as broke as California will want to create a state test and attempt to put up the costs of managing it. That goes for just about any state that is currently using the NR. Even FL went to the NREMT for the EMT exam. Testing is very expensive and it is less costly to have it administered through a national testing agency.

The new levels are not that big of a stretch but are long over due. Many of the college based programs will adapt with very few problems.
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That all makes sense, but I'm hearing that some states with extra levels and weird certs are going to keep their current systems. I can understand wanting more rigorous tests, especially with scopes of practice that vary so widely from the NREMT, but it would be nice if things were a bit more standardized.
 
Florida has only two levels and it will follow the NREMT for EMT-B.

However, for Paramedic, FL likes using its own state exam since it tests on state specific protocols such as trauma triage. The FDs here also are not pro changes for testing at this time either since their contracted medic mills would have to become accredited by CoAEMSP. This in turn could increase the cost of the FDs maintaining that every FF becomes a Paramedic.

The states that recognize a college degree can still recognize the NREMT at least for retroprocity if all the other education requirements are met.

However, for states like Washington and Iowa which have as many as 8 different levels, they should reconsider their system. Many of their levels are based on a single skill.
 
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Welcome back to the board Vent. And thank you for your as usual excellent information.
 
Kaisu said:
Welcome back to the board Vent. And thank you for your as usual excellent information.
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I'm still trying to hang out here occasionally. However the quality threads are fewer since the others have left. This forum is now for information about how to carry a gun and how to get a driver's license in California.
 
VentMedic said:
I'm still trying to hang out here occasionally. However the quality threads are fewer since the others have left. This forum is now for information about how to carry a gun and how to get a driver's license in California.
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Both of which are handy subjects ... considering at one time I was able to get a California drivers license, bah, should have at least tried and you know, nothing like a .357 Magnum to deal with that guy who cuts you off and follows you into the same parking lot lol
 
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