Paramedic (Associates Degree)

@ OP,

I've seen this line of thinking numerous times from EMT's and EMT-I's. They think that they've seen the medics do certain things for certain pt presentations over time. After a while, The EMT thinks that they could pretty much do what the medics do, that it's mostly "see A, do B, expect C" as was mentioned earlier.

The paramedic's education goes much deeper than "CPAP pushes lung water," "Amiodarone stops irregular heartbeats," "Albuterol helps wheezes," etc. When we use guidelines for treating crush syndrome, we need to know on a molecular level when, why, and how much bicarb, D50, NS, and albuterol to give, and for how long.

I had pharm for EMS and A&P for EMS in my medic original program, and I've also taken college human bio and pharm, and there's certainly a difference. There are maybe 30 or so EMS meds, but there are many more in IFT. The medical education a degree provides including with gen-eds such as College Writing, ITE (basic computer class), a foreign language are very useful in real life and the field.

We need to have at least the basics of a formal medical education to have the foundation with which we can improve our medical education as best practices and evidence based research increase our scope and capabilities. A ghetto, watered down medic mill "pharmacology for EMS" and "A&P for EMS" is lacking so much that it's difficult to impossible to fully understand the advances in emergency medicine as new thought processes, skills and abilities become available to us.
 
To people who believe having an Associates automatically makes a Paramedic degree go from a trade to a profession, you are sadly mistaken. Paramedic is and will always be a trade and you shouldn't feel like that’s a bad thing. I really wish people would stop complaining about it being a trade. Trade in my mind is a profession. You really want paramedic to be a 100,000 dollar loan for college.

The difference between a 'trade' and a 'profession' is more than just how much schooling you have.

Also, there are many jurisdictions outside the US where Paramedic would easliy be considered a profession. It links back to the issue of EMS professional development as a whole.
 
Why are people so scared of taking 1 or 2 semesters extra? Most Paramedics are over halfway to an AAS anyway. If you took your medic at a community college you should have about 1 year worth of full time college credits. Now add your EMT-B,( plus EMT Intermediate for some). In addition many Paramedic programs also require human bio or A&P as a pre rec.

After all that....

Taking English 101 and a couple other courses that are about 1000 easier(IMO) than Paramedic or A&P, I simply cannot understand why its not just a minimum AAS.
The cost of completing an AAS from a Community College is extremely low and much cheaper than a university or your Paramedic program.
 
Why are people so scared of taking 1 or 2 semesters extra? Most Paramedics are over halfway to an AAS anyway. If you took your medic at a community college you should have about 1 year worth of full time college credits. Now add your EMT-B,( plus EMT Intermediate for some). In addition many Paramedic programs also require human bio or A&P as a pre rec.

After all that....

Taking English 101 and a couple other courses that are about 1000 easier(IMO) than Paramedic or A&P, I simply cannot understand why its not just a minimum AAS.
The cost of completing an AAS from a Community College is extremely low and much cheaper than a university or your Paramedic program.

True. The AAS in EMS program I'm in is 65 credits. 27 credits are on me, the rest is credited by the college, since I'm already a paramedic. 17 to go, 10 left after this semester coming up. @ $120/credit (in-state CC), ignoring books and small admin expenses, the 65 credit degree is $7,800. That's about the median cost of the average paramedic cert program, but you get the degree with that, so it's a bargain. My medic original cost me $6k including books in 2004, so that saved me $4,560 at the college.
 
The medical education a degree provides including with gen-eds such as College Writing, ITE (basic computer class), a foreign language are very useful in real life and the field.

Spelling and grammar are atrocious in EMS, I had to require spell check on all pages of our electronic charting to deal with it. College level writing should be a minimum.
 
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