KEVD18
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as per usual, R/r said what i was trying to say much more betterer
Ouch - Wear your helmet
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as per usual, R/r said what i was trying to say much more betterer
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This seems to be relational issue as to what is considered high speed and what type of impact to the head are we talking about? What studies support the claim that a helmet doesn't matter for anything greater than 50 MPH?
Ridryder911
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There is several studies (no, I don't have a list) but I had studied when I was on my state TBI prevention committee; that accounts that there is only so much as helmet can do as well as the limit of protection. Most mechanism over the speed of 50 mph will produce such injuries that protection can be helpful but doubtful of really having much impact of truly preventing coup contra coup injuries and such related injuries. Most motorcyclists of high speed impacts have other associated life threatening injuries that one can only reduce the chances as well too. There is no real total protection or prevention, alike seat belts and other safety devices.
Most of TBI injury studies that I am aware for pediatrics are r/t bicycle injuries. I was alarmed at the extent of injuries to low speed and in fact placed regulation in my state parks for bicyclists must wear head gear.
I am not against head wear, but that it should be an option if the motorcyclist is of age and aware of the risks. The difference from seat belts and head wear is the percentage of protection it really provides the occupant.
R/r 911
Most of TBI injury studies that I am aware for pediatrics are r/t bicycle injuries. I was alarmed at the extent of injuries to low speed and in fact placed regulation in my state parks for bicyclists must wear head gear.
I am not against head wear, but that it should be an option if the motorcyclist is of age and aware of the risks. The difference from seat belts and head wear is the percentage of protection it really provides the occupant.
R/r 911
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Thanks for clarifying this.
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Well, it's like this...
My tough side says if you don't wear a helmet you don't get MediCal for cranial injuries. You just burned up the money I could send (as a case manager) to do pediatric care for a bunch of kids, or pregnant teens, or whatever.
I hate to argue about helmet safety with persons who just don't or won't wear them, it backs otherwise perfectly fine and rational people into saying helmets don't work or cause injuries and other such things. Pishtush, I say, except with the folks who get sensory disconnect and/or feel like they are invincible then rocket into oblivion. (And you know if I were still case managing I'd OK your case. I OK'ed plenty, darnitall). Just don't get all defensive, like tobacco executives arguing about nicotine or oil executives arguing about air pollution.
Just say "I don't wanna".
My tough side says if you don't wear a helmet you don't get MediCal for cranial injuries. You just burned up the money I could send (as a case manager) to do pediatric care for a bunch of kids, or pregnant teens, or whatever.
I hate to argue about helmet safety with persons who just don't or won't wear them, it backs otherwise perfectly fine and rational people into saying helmets don't work or cause injuries and other such things. Pishtush, I say, except with the folks who get sensory disconnect and/or feel like they are invincible then rocket into oblivion. (And you know if I were still case managing I'd OK your case. I OK'ed plenty, darnitall). Just don't get all defensive, like tobacco executives arguing about nicotine or oil executives arguing about air pollution.
Just say "I don't wanna".