Military Ems

babygirl2882 said:
Do they just go to fires? I know you said rescue but does that include ems?
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At every base I was at (six, in 20 years) FD responded (and was usually first on scene) to all MVC's, medical emergencies, industrial accidents (people trapped in, under, and around equipment), fires, Haz-Mat incidents, kids trapped in cars, drownings, child abuse (it happens), aircraft emergencies of all kinds, and just about any type call that could occur in a small city. The hospital/clinic always responded an ambulance, but I cannot recall any incident where we got there second. We (the FD) were the 911 answering point at most installations and would notify Security Forces and the Clinic of any emergencies.
 
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Most USAF FF’s I think are EMT’s at most I think. As far as being 1st on scene I am willing to bet it is because the call is routed to you. It’s kind of a sore subject for me because I work on a military base in the big sand box and have been called by the FD as an afterthought a couple of times. Afterthought as in rollover with ejection only to get called after they have arrived on scene, boarded the patients, etc. Not always but enough to leave me a little disgruntled. I am sure it is different depending on the location and the mission in regards to certifications, response, transport, etc.

Honestly USAF firefighting is a great way to get a ton of certifications that are recognized in a majority of the states I think, I just don’t think it’s the way to get a plethora of medical experience though. Just my 2 cents..


Tincanfireman said:
At every base I was at (six, in 20 years) FD responded (and was usually first on scene) to all MVC's, medical emergencies, industrial accidents (people trapped in, under, and around equipment), fires, Haz-Mat incidents, kids trapped in cars, drownings, child abuse (it happens), aircraft emergencies of all kinds, and just about any type call that could occur in a small city. The hospital/clinic always responded an ambulance, but I cannot recall any incident where we got there second. We (the FD) were the 911 answering point at most installations and would notify Security Forces and the Clinic of any emergencies.
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Agreed, mostly due to the fact that a vast majority of the base populace is young (< 40), works out regularly, and the military is nearly fanatical about safety. We did all the stuff I mentioned earlier, just not very often. Most of the more involved incidents happened near the base, not necessarily on the base proper (We were automatic mutual aid with some municipal departments). Still, the educational benefits are fantastic, the pay is steadily getting better, and the chance to see different parts of the world (not just the sandy parts) is also a big draw. As far as the delayed notification is concerned, we were always happy to see the medics arrive and I hate it that you guys weren't promptly notified. We could probably bat that one back & forth forever, but that's another thread for another day :rolleyes:. You are absolutely correct on the fire guys topping out at EMT, too. There are some -I's and -P's in the FD, but they are very few and far between.
 
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babygirl2882 said:
Do they just go to fires? I know you said rescue but does that include ems?

Ya as long as everything is still around I will post on progress!!! :D Thanks
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Good luck- remember Sgt Liar (recruiter) will promiss you the world, make sure your contract says that you will get you the MOS that YOU want (and qualified for after ASVAB), don't feel pressured into another MOS (unless you think you'll like it)... If for whatever reason they say- "we have no open slots for that MOS" tell them to have a nice day and to call you when it opens up, believe me they will call ;) If not try another service :usa:
 
The Army has multiple medic type jobs the most common is the trauma specialist now the whole combat and women thing there are technically no front lines any more a female cant be an infantry medic or trauma specialist but a female can be a truama specialast for the engineer corps or Military police corp etc etc thusly being forced to go on convoys and seeing plenty of action. Some states will let you argue trauma spc. for paramedic.
 
When I went through the Army medic school the 1st couple of weeks were geared towards the national Registry at the EMT level. If you passed you passed, if not life went on. They now make it mandatory (good thing) along with maintaining it they have added some other stuff mainly geared towards trauma (trauma aims, tc3, etc). It’s a good thing they have in that a lot of soldiers died early on because the tourniquet wasn’t really taught well and was pretty far down the algorithm and by the time it was placed, if it was placed, it was too late. Now, if in doubt it goes on. For some catastrophic injuries it is the 1st treatment for bleeding.

I don’t know if you could argue that the MOS gives you the paramedic level. Some of the ones I have worked with don’t know rhythm interpretation, ACLS meds, etc. Their MOS for the most part isn’t geared for it. There has even been a shift in the medic being unarmed and always treating a patient regardless of being under direct fire or not. Now the theory is that every round down range helps in close contact and the medic being armed and sending rounds down range initially might help prevent further casualties in that it disrupts the initial attack.

In any case the medics (army, navy, etc) over in the sand box are doing a bang up job and regardless of licensure level, etc they deserve some serious respect for what they do and endure on a daily basis
 
I am also a former 91 Bravo with the US Army. If your thinking about being EMS in the military thats f*cking awesome. You will get great training and we always need good docs (medics) in the service I commend anyone who is willing to step up and take on that challenge. I also commend everyone else on here for there willingness to help others even if it is a taxi ride to see there baby daddy ...lol.
 
Maybe a bit off topic, but are there any EMS-related positions for officers? All the positions I've heard are for enlisted only.

The reason I ask is because I'm working towards acceptance in the Coast Guard's CSPI (College Student Precommissioning Initiative) which, upon successful completion, puts you at O-1. However, after I decided to go through EMT school two months ago I've really been considering pursuing an emergency medical career.

Thanks for the input.
 
There are plenty of healthcare careers avilable to an officer, but EMS is not one of them. You are on the right track, stay on it. Don't for a minute think about giving up a potential commission to play EMT, that would be a horrible mistake. Go to school, get an education, obtain your commission, and serve your country honorably. You can work part-time as an EMT along the line, but man don't give up a great offer like you currently have....................
 
Flight-LP said:
There are plenty of healthcare careers avilable to an officer, but EMS is not one of them. You are on the right track, stay on it. Don't for a minute think about giving up a potential commission to play EMT, that would be a horrible mistake. Go to school, get an education, obtain your commission, and serve your country honorably. You can work part-time as an EMT along the line, but man don't give up a great offer like you currently have....................
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+1

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Though I wasn't a corpsman , I took my first EMT class in a Navy school at Miramar . ( before the marines took over ) My instructors were SEAL corpsmen and you couldn't get any better . They also taught the aviation physiology classes there . I believe all the services have great EMS personnel , though it really comes down to the individual and his / her motivation .

CERTGUY
 
Tactical Medic said:
I don't think they have that in Florida, and i'm almost sure there is no such thing in NY, they don't even have EMT- Critical Care
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NY has an EMT-Critical Care level.
 
Tactical Medic said:
really? must be new couse they didn't have that when I worked there.... I left NYC May of '02 :unsure:
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I am certain they did. I learned of that level back in my original EMT class in 96. Its not offered alot. Alot of transport companies offer it internally because they can bill ALS without having to pay paramedics. I think LaGuardia CC in Queens may offer it. Many CCs don't work 911 unless they do its as BLS.
 
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gnh2276 said:
The Army has multiple medic type jobs the most common is the trauma specialist now the whole combat and women thing there are technically no front lines any more a female cant be an infantry medic or trauma specialist but a female can be a truama specialast for the engineer corps or Military police corp etc etc thusly being forced to go on convoys and seeing plenty of action. Some states will let you argue trauma spc. for paramedic.
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What states are those?
 
Flight-LP said:
There are plenty of healthcare careers avilable to an officer, but EMS is not one of them. You are on the right track, stay on it. Don't for a minute think about giving up a potential commission to play EMT, that would be a horrible mistake. Go to school, get an education, obtain your commission, and serve your country honorably. You can work part-time as an EMT along the line, but man don't give up a great offer like you currently have....................
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Whatever happened to the Aeromedical Evacuation Specialist position the US Army had? I wanted it and it disappeared overnight lol.
 
The Air Force does it and it is an enlisted specialty...................
 
Flight-LP said:
The Air Force does it and it is an enlisted specialty...................
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In the Army it use to be classified as a 67J and was a Medical Service Corps officer position. It was as close to be a medic as I could get but it disappeared before all my paperwork was finished and weight still wasn't meeting standard so I missed out.
 
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