Military Ems

[babygirl2882]

The post by Tactical Medic about a new sub-forum for mititary ems well it got me thinking...how many people out there are military ems? I was wondering because I have always been curious about the Air force...and I have been thinking lately about going into the air force when I turn 18 and maybe learning about ems and other things from there...so I was wondering what peoples perspective on the military ems and stuff ya I'm tired and can't think right...I hope this made sense.

 

[Tactical Medic]

The post by Tactical Medic about a new sub-forum for mititary ems well it got me thinking...how many people out there are military ems? I was wondering because I have always been curious about the Air force...and I have been thinking lately about going into the air force when I turn 18 and maybe learning about ems and other things from there...so I was wondering what peoples perspective on the military ems and stuff ya I'm tired and can't think right...I hope this made sense.

The Airforce has PJs- Parajumpers, these are the "special forces" type medics. When I worked in NYC I precepted many of them going through the 18 delta course. Good guys! their main job is to find, stabilize, and extract downed pilots and others from behind enemy lines...

 

[Tactical Medic]

BTW in case you can't finish the PJ school, they have regular medics that are just as good

 

[Flight-LP]

BTW in case you can't finish the PJ school, they have regular medics that are just as good

Irrelevent point as women cannot currently become PJ's.........................

 

[babygirl2882]

really? why?

 

[ffemt8978]

really? why?

Because the military considers it a front line combat job and women aren't allowed in those.

And before it gets started, this forum is not the place to discuss whether or not the military needs to change this policy.

 

[babygirl2882]

Ok so is a regular ems my only option or are there other things?

 

[ffemt8978]

Ok so is a regular ems my only option or are there other things?

Each branch has their own version of medics (except the Marines). As a Navy Corspman, for instance, you could get assigned to a ship where you are fulfilling the roles hospital staff, doctor's office, and EMS all in one job.

 

[Tactical Medic]

Yes PJs are considered front line troops, but the AF still has medics, and you can still take many of the classes the PJs take and get certified B)

I'm X-Army 91bravo, and currently in the navy (Corpsman). We have PLENTY of female corpsman wearing USMC Digis

 

[oldschoolmedic]

I did the 8404 Field Med course back in 1988. It was good class in basic first aid. We could do a ton more stuff on active duty but the basics were just hammered into us because they save lives. And before someone says anything negative about it, try remembering your basics in the dark with live ammo and arty going off, gets just a tad hairy.

Playing in the mud with the Marines was fun. There are some things you will only see in the service because they happen so infrequently in the civilian sector.

As far as enlisting, consider the Marines new advertising slogan, "We don't accept applications, only commitments." The military is serious. It is not a McJob you can just quit because "OMG that big sergeanty guy is a meanie who, like I swear, ate one of his own children for breakfast." OR "Camouflage makes me look fat." OR "It's like SOOOOOOO hot in the desert, why don't we like invade the Bahamas."

The skills you learn there will be put to use in worse conditions than you can imagine. So before you enlist consider your dedication to learning and serving your brothers in arms and your country. Non-hackers will be sent packing and you do not get to pick where you go.

One more thing to consider... more Congressional Medal of Honor recipients have been Corpsmen or Medics than any other group and almost all of the citations are ended the same way... "post-humously awarded this date..."

It gives a new meaning to the phrase, "So others may live."

 

[Flight-LP]

I did the 8404 Field Med course back in 1988. It was good class in basic first aid. We could do a ton more stuff on active duty but the basics were just hammered into us because they save lives. And before someone says anything negative about it, try remembering your basics in the dark with live ammo and arty going off, gets just a tad hairy.

Playing in the mud with the Marines was fun. There are some things you will only see in the service because they happen so infrequently in the civilian sector.

As far as enlisting, consider the Marines new advertising slogan, "We don't accept applications, only commitments." The military is serious. It is not a McJob you can just quit because "OMG that big sergeanty guy is a meanie who, like I swear, ate one of his own children for breakfast." OR "Camouflage makes me look fat." OR "It's like SOOOOOOO hot in the desert, why don't we like invade the Bahamas."

The skills you learn there will be put to use in worse conditions than you can imagine. So before you enlist consider your dedication to learning and serving your brothers in arms and your country. Non-hackers will be sent packing and you do not get to pick where you go.

One more thing to consider... more Congressional Medal of Honor recipients have been Corpsmen or Medics than any other group and almost all of the citations are ended the same way... "post-humously awarded this date..."

It gives a new meaning to the phrase, "So others may live."

Well spoken. Todays youth would be wise to take notes before their usual "on a whim" decision is made.................

The military is not here for kids to decide what they want to do when they grow up.............

 

[BossyCow]

It's interesting that I haven't seen that as a recruiters ad campaign!

 

[babygirl2882]

I did the 8404 Field Med course back in 1988. It was good class in basic first aid. We could do a ton more stuff on active duty but the basics were just hammered into us because they save lives. And before someone says anything negative about it, try remembering your basics in the dark with live ammo and arty going off, gets just a tad hairy.

Playing in the mud with the Marines was fun. There are some things you will only see in the service because they happen so infrequently in the civilian sector.

As far as enlisting, consider the Marines new advertising slogan, "We don't accept applications, only commitments." The military is serious. It is not a McJob you can just quit because "OMG that big sergeanty guy is a meanie who, like I swear, ate one of his own children for breakfast." OR "Camouflage makes me look fat." OR "It's like SOOOOOOO hot in the desert, why don't we like invade the Bahamas."

The skills you learn there will be put to use in worse conditions than you can imagine. So before you enlist consider your dedication to learning and serving your brothers in arms and your country. Non-hackers will be sent packing and you do not get to pick where you go.

One more thing to consider... more Congressional Medal of Honor recipients have been Corpsmen or Medics than any other group and almost all of the citations are ended the same way... "post-humously awarded this date..."

It gives a new meaning to the phrase, "So others may live."

I totally agree...I'm not like that at all...it really bugs me when girls do that...you know make a big deal out of things like that...thats why I'm thinking about it now where I have 2-3 years to figure it out and decide if thats what I want and make sure that thats where my I want to go.
I agree that the new phrase is really good...thanks for posting

 

[Tactical Medic]

HUHHRAAAA Oldschoolmedic-

Yea I'm 8404 too, and currently the LPO for my unit (kinda sucks and e-5 in an e-7 billet) Anyway I agree with you 100% funny about the new USMC slogan- I just saw it a 1/2 hour ago... Being a corpsman has been a whole lot better for me than a 91bravo, maybe its my unit? But most every drill or AT is fun as heck and I get to go to some cool training and conferences every year.

with that being said I joined the military knowing that when the call came I would have to pack my bags and say goodbye to my loved ones. Regardless of which service you join there is a good chance of you deploying- even if you don't go to Iraq or Afganastan (sp?) you might be close enough to be attacked by Tangos.

Good luck in your endeavors future recruit, just remember that there is a "Doc" in the sandbox, sweating, swearing, and caring for those around him/her...

 

[Arkymedic]

I did the 8404 Field Med course back in 1988. It was good class in basic first aid. We could do a ton more stuff on active duty but the basics were just hammered into us because they save lives. And before someone says anything negative about it, try remembering your basics in the dark with live ammo and arty going off, gets just a tad hairy.

Playing in the mud with the Marines was fun. There are some things you will only see in the service because they happen so infrequently in the civilian sector.

As far as enlisting, consider the Marines new advertising slogan, "We don't accept applications, only commitments." The military is serious. It is not a McJob you can just quit because "OMG that big sergeanty guy is a meanie who, like I swear, ate one of his own children for breakfast." OR "Camouflage makes me look fat." OR "It's like SOOOOOOO hot in the desert, why don't we like invade the Bahamas."

The skills you learn there will be put to use in worse conditions than you can imagine. So before you enlist consider your dedication to learning and serving your brothers in arms and your country. Non-hackers will be sent packing and you do not get to pick where you go.

One more thing to consider... more Congressional Medal of Honor recipients have been Corpsmen or Medics than any other group and almost all of the citations are ended the same way... "post-humously awarded this date..."

It gives a new meaning to the phrase, "So others may live."

Amen. Very well put

 

[DFDEMS]

A Navy corpsman will probably give you a deeper knowledge base that an Army medic. I went through Army medic school in 91, EFMB, etc so I am not knocking them. Just my opinion. I would probably stay away from the medical portion in the Air Force but I couldn’t give you a reason other than I would hate to be the designated bed pan changer. If your picking a different job the USAF has the best lifestyle I think.

As far as the Marines a study showed that roughly 50% of their total force had seen Combat or deployed to the middle east and they are the same ones that go back over every 4 months. Their Commandant apparently believes in the “Marine first, clerk second” motto and has stated that if you are in the USMC you will go to the middle east and apparently are reassigning people who have not gone so that they do go. In any event I think that’s a right on attitude from there Commandant.

 

[Tincanfireman]

and I have been thinking lately about going into the air force when I turn 18 and maybe learning about ems and other things from there...

You also might want to consider Fire Protection in the Air Force. They respond to just about every type of emergency on base and have no restrictions on who can do what. You won't walk in the door on the first day and jump on the Rescue truck, but there's a ton of opportunity if you're willing to work for it. A great majority (if not all) the technical training now comes with IFSAC certification, and EMT classes are available fairly frequently, depending on the size of the base. The Career Field identifier is 3E7X1, by the way. Good luck, and let us know what you decide.
(Retired AF E-7; 3E7X1)

 

[AZFF/EMT]

If I remember correctly AF Pararescuemen do not go through 18-D school. 18-D is the Army Special Forces medical specialist school. PJ's go through their own version of the training located in texas. They go through army basic airborne school, and HALO school. Some go through Ranger school. The also go though navy dive training.

They do a wide variet of jobs with the main focus on being the rescue of down aircraft personelle or support in special operations missions. If you watch blackhawk down they are the medics who come down and get in the crashed helo and provide aid. We had a combat controller team along with 2 PJ's attached to our task force in the desert.

 

[Tactical Medic]

If I remember correctly AF Pararescuemen do not go through 18-D school. 18-D is the Army Special Forces medical specialist school. PJ's go through their own version of the training located in texas. They go through army basic airborne school, and HALO school. Some go through Ranger school. The also go though navy dive training.

They do a wide variet of jobs with the main focus on being the rescue of down aircraft personelle or support in special operations missions. If you watch blackhawk down they are the medics who come down and get in the crashed helo and provide aid. We had a combat controller team along with 2 PJ's attached to our task force in the desert.

I beg to differ- just because there airforce doesn't mean they don't attend 18delta school. I precepted 18delta canidates in NYC and they come from all the services (minus Marines). i mean if they go to "army basic airborn school" why wouldnt they be in an 18delta school (which used to be in Ft Sam Houston, Tx)?

 

[babygirl2882]

You also might want to consider Fire Protection in the Air Force. They respond to just about every type of emergency on base and have no restrictions on who can do what. You won't walk in the door on the first day and jump on the Rescue truck, but there's a ton of opportunity if you're willing to work for it. A great majority (if not all) the technical training now comes with IFSAC certification, and EMT classes are available fairly frequently, depending on the size of the base. The Career Field identifier is 3E7X1, by the way. Good luck, and let us know what you decide.
(Retired AF E-7; 3E7X1)

Do they just go to fires? I know you said rescue but does that include ems?

Ya as long as everything is still around I will post on progress!!! Thanks