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Hi,
I am a member of an Emergency Response Team for our company. We are all ECA/EMR currently, starting EMT-B training within 3 months, rescue and fire brigade after that. We all have full-time jobs in an aerospace company surrounded by cryo propellant, and the team is formed by volunteers. We are newly-formed and are looking to purchase a training manikin(s) for our bi-weekly training sessions. The problem is, the features we want are seemingly not available to be found. Here are our requirements:

-Preferably 175-200lbs (it will be used in rescue simulations and we need the weight for realism purposes). This is the requirement that is seemingly impossible to find that comes with the other requirements.
-Allows both CPR and advanced airways (lungs and tubing would be great, but just allowing an airway insertion is enough)
-Sub $3,000
-We do not need electronics as this adds considerably to the price
-Modularity; ability to remove limbs
-If a manikin exists that could have an airway head installed later on (to replace a standard manikin head), that would be fine.
-If nothing like this exists in our criteria, possibly a 150lb manikin and then we could strap a 25lb weight vest onto him for the rescue portion then remove it for care.

Thanks for any help, we have been searching and are not having luck. I am waiting on a response from manikin companies that I emailed also. I realize this is probably asking too much and does not exist, but I figured some of you experienced folks might have thoughts or ideas about our issue. Again, we are new to this, so we do not have experience picking this stuff out. The full body manikins that our trainer uses are great....but soo lightweight that transport is not as realistic as we would like. We have lots of 200+lb guys working here, and a small 4 man team as of right now, and being rural, we might have only 1 or 2 guys for a response, and we are about an hour away for the local EMS response, so we would like to train as realistically as possible. Thanks!
 
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"Rescue Randy" is the name of the heavy, dead weight manikin. However, I don't believe he comes with an airway head.

The airway heads are usually pretty fragile and tear easily. You might be better off using a large rescue manikin and then setting up an airway control station using a regular intubation head somewhere else.

www.simulaids.com is a good source to find this stuff
 
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Thanks. We have considered that if we cannot find what we want in 1 manikin.

The 200lb rescue randy is what we will go with if we cannot. If he only had an open mouth and allow an airway, it would be great. We don't need plumbing, just the ability to simply place an oral and nasal.
 
Also, if it would allow an IV arm to be upgraded/attached later on, that would be great.
 
westtxrocket said:
Also, if it would allow an IV arm to be upgraded/attached later on, that would be great.
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You're probably not gonna find that in one ready to go rescue manikin. I've always taught the skills as separate pieces. The rescue manikin in a vehicle, the extrication performed and the manikin carried to a central location where you find an IV arm or an intubation head.
 
Thanks buddy. We were hoping to be able to perform the trauma care and cardiac arrest care on the same one, but it appears you cannot get that in a realistic-weight manikin. It looks like we need to take your suggestion and have a rescue manikin, pull him out, then perform on an ALS manikin.

Good point on the IV arm, there's no reason it can't be bought separate. That won't even be needed for awhile, after we get further along and have a medical director, anyways.
 
Generally speaking you either have a body weight manikin that is nothing more (can't do Advanced airways or CPR on) or you have a training type manikin that is very light (advanced airways can be preformed on as well as CPR).

If you want a manikin that you can take limbs off, attach IV arms, CPR, airways you are looking at well over $3,000 for them. Normally these manikins have electronics included.
 
Thanks guys. Basically I need a rescue randy with a mouth and throat.
I talked to Simulaid and he said they plan to produce that exact thing at some point, but no timeline.

Looks like we will get a rescue randy, and then later we will get a torso with airways and cpr capability.
Thanks for the suggestions!
 
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