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suziquzi99 said:
Ok well let me ask this. There is an ems / SC class offered here at half the price but they say it's not as good as the college. It's still accredited. What are your thoughts on that?
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Link to both programs.
 
suziquzi99 said:
Ok well let me ask this. There is an ems / SC class offered here at half the price but they say it's not as good as the college. It's still accredited. What are your thoughts on that?
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Shaky ground there. Look at different program's Pass rate. A program won't guarantee you will pass state/registry (Be aware of the ones that 100% Guarantees) and the shadier one's will gladly take your money, slam the curriculum down your throat, then send you to test with a slap on the *** and a "good luck".

Try to talk to some of their prior students. If there is a program for a few hundred less but only has a 50% pass rate, then spend the little extra for a program that educates you more and has a higher pass rate
 
stephenrb81 said:
Shaky ground there. Look at different program's Pass rate. A program won't guarantee you will pass state/registry (Be aware of the ones that 100% Guarantees) and the shadier one's will gladly take your money, slam the curriculum down your throat, then send you to test with a slap on the *** and a "good luck".

Try to talk to some of their prior students. If there is a program for a few hundred less but only has a 50% pass rate, then spend the little extra for a program that educates you more and has a higher pass rate
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High percentages do exist though. 100% is a red flag, but something slightly less isn't.

My medic program maintains a 96% pass rate.
 
The ems/sc program is sponsored by the state govt office of ems. Around here it is said to be not as good as the college but wouldn't they have a good program being the govt program. Now, having said that, I want to go to the best one. I guess I am a little confused as to why the same accredited course could be worse. I understand the % levels. I can't find statistics on that, as of now. Regardless, in this area I live in, do you think they would go by the better program for hiring from which you were certified?

here it is said to be not as good as the college but wouldn't they have a good program being the govt program )lol did I really just say that???
 
suziquzi99 said:
The ems/sc program is sponsored by the state govt office of ems. Around here it is said to be not as good as the college but wouldn't they have a good program being the govt program. Now, having said that, I want to go to the best one. I guess I am a little confused as to why the same accredited course could be worse. I understand the % levels. I can't find statistics on that, as of now. Regardless, in this area I live in, do you think they would go by the better program for hiring from which you were certified?

here it is said to be not as good as the college but wouldn't they have a good program being the govt program )lol did I really just say that???
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I'd personally go for the college one, and hire people from the college program over the other one.
 
suziquzi99 said:
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Now, having said that, I want to go to the best one. I guess I am a little confused as to why the same accredited course could be worse.
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A program is only as good as it's instructor. It is possible to have a fully accredited *program* and end up with a poor instructor (Perhaps the original instructor left/retired and a new one was used that doesn't teach as well as another).

That being said, you would still want to look toward the accredited programs as opposed to an entity that just decided to throw a program together for some easy cash
 
Having not started class yet (start in Jan), why is it that most people drop out. I've been studying for the past two months to get ahead. What's the hangup there. Wanting an easy career?
 
suziquzi99 said:
Having not started class yet (start in Jan), why is it that most people drop out. I've been studying for the past two months to get ahead. What's the hangup there. Wanting an easy career?
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A majority of drop-outs from EMS programs is because of interference with their job they are working to pay the bills while in school and family obligations.

The clinicals and school time can cause issues with a non-cooperative employer or a single income/low income family
 
Not to sound indignant, but shouldn't most people have had that worked out before joining the program?
 
stephenrb81 said:
A majority of drop-outs from EMS programs is because of interference with their job they are working to pay the bills while in school and family obligations.

The clinicals and school time can cause issues with a non-cooperative employer or a single income/low income family
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Or they're of the 99% of students that are aspiring firefighters, completely not interested in EMS.

And as to your question above, yes.
 
suziquzi99 said:
Not to sound indignant, but shouldn't most people have had that worked out before joining the program?
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It's not that easy. I have ~700 clinical hours to do, Plus work my regular job to pay my bills, Plus still get to school 12-16 hours a week (And somewhere attempt to find time for the wife and kids).

Granted, one should attempt to make arrangements with their employer prior to starting the program, and my employer is very accommodating but I still have to find time for clinicals and family on top of school and work....and it is HARD to do.
 
Stephen, I have heard that once you're in, they will assist with further training. I know they have that in SC and will pay for it. The thing is you have to research and apply. Do they have that where ever you are?
 
suziquzi99 said:
Stephen, I have heard that once you're in, they will assist with further training. I know they have that in SC and will pay for it. The thing is you have to research and apply. Do they have that where ever you are?
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Some services will offer varying amount of assistance. Some will completely front your tuition for a contract to work X amount of years (Or payroll deduction for failing the course).

Some of the students in my course got lucky and their employer is sponsoring them through the program. My employer is assisting me by providing an extremely flexible schedule AND Mileage pay for school, once I complete the course and pass registry, they will pay me back the tuition I paid in exchange for a 2 year contract

Now as for CEU's to maintain your licensure, Most employers give you TONS of options to obtain those free without obligation
 
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Stephen, that sounds like a great deal. At least you will get tuition back. Better then nothing.
 
suziquzi99 said:
Stephen, that sounds like a great deal. At least you will get tuition back. Better then nothing.
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Never heard of that deal for Paramedics, but I know it's common for RNs.

My company sponsored 6 of their EMTs to go to Medic school.

5 of them failed the National Registry...4 times.

And thus how I got my job.
 
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