IV Saline for Hangover prevention/solution

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I'll offer myself as a test subject for that study, then. For the greater good.

But seriously, there does seem to be a conflict between the theory of how well NS would work and with how well it actually does work (aka brings relief). I'm not familiar with the abbrivation "Cx", btw.

Bruce, as far as I know, it's completely okay for physicians to walk into a pharmacy with a stack of their own prescriptions. If they were opiates that would be different, that would send red flags, but same with a medic. Saying it's starting down the wrong road is a bit dramatic...once day he's giving himself NS, next he's shooting fentanyl... One's straight unethical, another is just using practical supplies from work. Only crime would be misappropriation of supplies (unless they used expired bags).
 
AnthonyM83 said:
Saying it's starting down the wrong road is a bit dramatic...once day he's giving himself NS, next he's shooting fentanyl...
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hahaha I'm don't believe I was implying normal saline was a gateway drug.

They teach doctors that they should not self-diagnose and it is not in the best interests of anyone to treat their own family members. (No time to pull up references, but you can find it).
 
BruceD said:
hahaha I'm don't believe I was implying normal saline was a gateway drug.
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Sure it is. All the kids start a line and do Normal Saline. Than they get hooked. Before you know it, kids are having vomit contests after a spoon ipneac (sp)
 
I got hooked on O2 in school. Even to this day I can't make it more than a few minutes without a few puffs of second hand O2.

Cx = Conscious
 
TKO said:
I got hooked on O2 in school. Even to this day I can't make it more than a few minutes without a few puffs of second hand O2.
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Ok, that's downright funny.

-Kat
 
TKO said:
I got hooked on O2 in school. Even to this day I can't make it more than a few minutes without a few puffs of second hand O2.

Cx = Conscious
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I agree, the overuse of this extremely addictive, pervasive drug (some estimates put it at > 95% of the adult population and > 98% of children currently use!) and the horrible side effects it evokes must be brought to the public's attention. We must not let one more victim fall prey to oxygen's inescapable physical and psychological dependance. Perhaps if everyone contacted their local politicians we could finally make progress in the war on this lethal chemical.

Join "Paramedics against Oxygen Overuse in People" today!

After this drug is defeated, we'll proceed onto battle dihydrogen monoxidase, which may perhaps be responsible for more deaths throughout history than any other known chemical.
 
Wait! I thought if we were to leave the ball and chain of Oxygen behind we would finally be free to exist within dihydrogen monoxidase environments and sing songs of life "Under da dihydrogen monoxidase", and you want to break our addiction to it as well?

Well sir, I say without some vices, life's just not worth living.

puff! puff! sip!


*cough*
 
MSDeltaFlt said:
If you show up for work and "pee hot", you go home along with your partner who's trying to help you cover it up. And make sure both of your CV's are up to date while your there. You should have plenty of time.

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So i went back and fourth on this and finally decided to ask does peeing hot mean testing positive for drugs or alcohol?
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So i went back and fourth on this and finally decided to ask does peeing hot mean testing positive for drugs or alcohol?
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Affirmative, ghostrider.
 
It always seemed to me that IV NS was only useful for "hangovers" where people are so dehydrated that they couldn't solve it easily PO.

Certainly, people can be "hungover" and not still drunk if they have not taken care of their hydration and nutrition.

When I was brand new on the ambulance, our medic made me start a line on him for his hangover. I was just excited to get the stick. He told me if I missed, he'd start a 14 on me. I didn't miss.
 
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Is it the right thing to do? Nope
Is it done pretty much everywhere? Yes

Pretty much every place I have worked, I have seen pictures/stories of coworkers hooked up to an IV line while drinking ETOH. About the only thing it will let you do, is be able to drink a little longer, as it replaces the water that you would have otherwise lost. I think the hang over will be the same, as you are still losing a lot of liquids while you sleep that fun night off.
 
Lots of speculation, lots of anecdotes, but nothing definitive.

I'm seeking funding to conduct a prospective study at NCEMSF '09. We need to apply the principles of EBM to this crucial question.
 
ROFLMAO!

Where is it? I'd come to help with the study!
 
I remember way back in my EMT ER clinical days an intoxicated teenager was brought in by ambulance. Nothing wrong with kid other than the fact he was drunk. Standard practice, vitals and an IV.

I guess "cotton mouth" must have gotten to him pretty good, 'cause when I went to check on him later he'd chewed through the IV tubing and was sucking the IV fluid straight out of the bag to quench his thirst!

Takes all kinds.
 
BruceD said:
I agree, the overuse of this extremely addictive, pervasive drug (some estimates put it at > 95% of the adult population and > 98% of children currently use!) and the horrible side effects it evokes must be brought to the public's attention. We must not let one more victim fall prey to oxygen's inescapable physical and psychological dependance. Perhaps if everyone contacted their local politicians we could finally make progress in the war on this lethal chemical.

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Dude, you forgot to mention the dangerous derivative of this drug - DHMO (Dihydrogen Monoxide). Its estimated that more than 300 million Americans are addicted to DHMO. What's worse, is that its been found to be in almost every lake, river, and stream in North America. What is truly sad is, in Africa, an addict will walk for hours and hours, just to get enough doses to keep themselves and their children from going into DHMO withdrawal. I've seen people in Washington selling in both its solid and liquid form (street name: "ice") with impunity on the side of the road...
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What is the issue if you start a line on yourself? Saline and iv supplies are otc, do not require an rx. Any member of the public can go to a pharmacy and buy the stuff.

As for whether or not it works, ive never done it. Moderation is the best approach.

Although iv fluids, iv gravol (injectable is otc here under napra), ibuprofen 400 mg and oxygen may work...
 
Av8or007 said:
What is the issue if you start a line on yourself? Saline and iv supplies are otc, do not require an rx. Any member of the public can go to a pharmacy and buy the stuff.

As for whether or not it works, ive never done it. Moderation is the best approach.

Although iv fluids, iv gravol (injectable is otc here under napra), ibuprofen 400 mg and oxygen may work...
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Uhhhh Normal Saline is a prescription med. You cannot get it OTC.
 
Holy ghost thread!

Locked, because this thread is 5 years old, this topic has been discussed between now and then, and bumping it was wildly unnecessary.

Edit: He is in Canada, it may be OTC up there. Things like Tylenol 3 are.
 
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