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Anybody know anything about this place? any good?
 
Mr. Google helped me find a webpage:
http://firefuture.com/default.aspx

It APPEARS to be an EMT Class. But they don't actually make it really clear. Heck - all the photos on the site are FIRE related... nothing medical.

I'm gonna guess that the local FD's want their Fire recruits to already have EMT-B, therefore one would take this class to look better to go play firefighter.

I don't normally say this - but stuff like this makes me really, really dream of the day that EMS and FD will be two TOTALLY separate services, without the confusion of dual-role providers. If the school doesn't see any need to advertise the MEDICAL component, why would one really need an EMT card at all?


Now- I'm not trying to discourage you - really. I'm on the opposite coast, and know nothing about the school... it might be a bang-up EMT program and be run by good people... my perception of the webpage is that the program is embarrassed to be an EMT program.
 
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Jon said:
Mr. Google helped me find a webpage:
http://firefuture.com/default.aspx

It APPEARS to be an EMT Class. But they don't actually make it really clear. Heck - all the photos on the site are FIRE related... nothing medical.

I'm gonna guess that the local FD's want their Fire recruits to already have EMT-B, therefore one would take this class to look better to go play firefighter.

I don't normally say this - but stuff like this makes me really, really dream of the day that EMS and FD will be two TOTALLY separate services, without the confusion of dual-role providers. If the school doesn't see any need to advertise the MEDICAL component, why would one really need an EMT card at all?


Now- I'm not trying to discourage you - really. I'm on the opposite coast, and know nothing about the school... it might be a bang-up EMT program and be run by good people... my perception of the webpage is that the program is embarrassed to be an EMT program.
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lol, that's what I got from it. Class is held at the station so it seems legit but it seems more for like you said, the guys that wanna go play fire fighter. A quick run threw for them. I did fire technology and I hated it. A good friend I made out of that class was an EMT and hes the one that opened my eyes up to EMS. I would love to see both like you said services different.
Seems to make more sense.
 
MMiz said:
Please let us know what you find out!
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Still waiting. Tried calling so I emaild. Day 2 and no answer. I askd along the lines of the passing rate of the last class. I did notice that they are not on the approval list on the states EMS site. So as soon as I hear any answers, I will pass them here for anybody else that might ask the same question.
 
gonefishing said:
Still waiting. Tried calling so I emaild. Day 2 and no answer. I askd along the lines of the passing rate of the last class. I did notice that they are not on the approval list on the states EMS site. So as soon as I hear any answers, I will pass them here for anybody else that might ask the same question.
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If it's not on the approved list, I wouldn't look into them any further...
 
Well... there is the chance that they are operating under a different name for the state list... as a subcontract or D/B/A or something.

Good luck!
 
Jon said:
Well... there is the chance that they are operating under a different name for the state list... as a subcontract or D/B/A or something.

Good luck!
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Thanks!, it is thru the FD and class is held at the station which does have its own ems. Im thinking of taking one for the team and finding out wether its worth it or not? I would be doing a good deed by saving somebody else the trouble.
 
I heard back!

Finally heard back! Heres what they have to say....

"Thank you for your interest in Fire Future. Every person who is eligible to take the final has passed the course. That being said, we have a 50/50 pass rate. Students must obtain an 80% throughout the course in order to be eligible for the final. We start classes on June 30, 2010. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

Thank you"
 
Save your money and take the class somewhere else!!!!!!!!!
Horrible instructors, (all but one), exams throughout class are out of left field and put together by someone other than the person covering the text book material!!!
No one takes accountability for any issues or problems you may have.
I could go on and on but simply put.....
Avoid doing your EMT at Firefuture!!!
 
EMT4All said:
Save your money and take the class somewhere else!!!!!!!!!
Horrible instructors, (all but one), exams throughout class are out of left field and put together by someone other than the person covering the text book material!!!
No one takes accountability for any issues or problems you may have.
I could go on and on but simply put.....
Avoid doing your EMT at Firefuture!!!
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oh no I was just about to enroll in the course - should I just continue to look else where ? I was really hoping to go here due to distance from my home and class start time any other suggestions? did you take the course? my goal is a job being an emt not using this as a stepping stone to other careers so I want to make sure I go to a school that I will actually learn what I need to know not just how to pass the test
 
macimayhem said:
oh no I was just about to enroll in the course - should I just continue to look else where ? I was really hoping to go here due to distance from my home and class start time any other suggestions? did you take the course? my goal is a job being an emt not using this as a stepping stone to other careers so I want to make sure I go to a school that I will actually learn what I need to know not just how to pass the test
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Honestly myself as well as many others think the program is a scam. The tests are written so you fail the class, the questions are not based off of material from the text book, they are made up by someone who use to be an EMT (you won't have enough points to continue after the 3rd test, total of 10 tests) and then you have to re-take the class with a $100 to $150 discount. I was just told one of the classes now is being taught by someone who is not even a currently registered EMT. I'm actually going to be reporting them to ICEMA within the week and I really couldn't even get into how horrible that program is.
If you want to go somewhere good, somewhere reputable enroll at Mt. Sac Junior College or Chaffey College. Mt. Baldy ROP is also in the area but not to sure about the program. UCLA offers an express class which is only a couple hundred more than FIre Future and it's also amazing! Trust me you will waste more time, spend more money and be less prepared to take the National Registery if you go there. Good luck and if you want any further info post ur email and I will email you personally.
 
EMT4All said:
Honestly myself as well as many others think the program is a scam. The tests are written so you fail the class, the questions are not based off of material from the text book, they are made up by someone who use to be an EMT (you won't have enough points to continue after the 3rd test, total of 10 tests) and then you have to re-take the class with a $100 to $150 discount. I was just told one of the classes now is being taught by someone who is not even a currently registered EMT. I'm actually going to be reporting them to ICEMA within the week and I really couldn't even get into how horrible that program is.
If you want to go somewhere good, somewhere reputable enroll at Mt. Sac Junior College or Chaffey College. Mt. Baldy ROP is also in the area but not to sure about the program. UCLA offers an express class which is only a couple hundred more than FIre Future and it's also amazing! Trust me you will waste more time, spend more money and be less prepared to take the National Registery if you go there. Good luck and if you want any further info post ur email and I will email you personally.
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thanks for all the info... I was hoping to do a program rather than a cc I wanted to start asap. here is my email (moderator edit)
 
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gotshirtz001 said:
Why not a CC? In most cases, they are the best bang got your buck.
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to be honest I don't really have an answer for your question, im looking at mt sac and ucla right now as we speak just trying to figure out what I need to do is overwhelming. im like a fish out of water. I graduated high school in 2010 and haven't done any schooling after that so to just jump in is overwhelming but any info/advice you can offer would be awesome!
 
To go to a community college, you generally need to:
1. Apply to the school- new applications usually approved within 48 hours.
2. Take an English and Math assessment - just schedule the test, it determines which courses you can take

OR

Just go meet with a counselor. Tell them your goals and they can help you find the right road to go down. You may be able to skip the assessments if ur just trying to get your EMT. However, I recommend slowly working toward an Associate degree; they are helpful.

Community Colleges are generally have cheaper tuition and better instruction than privates that are trying to make a profit.
 
so that's sucks ... I did all that mt sac said I needed to do in order to register for the emt class and of course I get a road block! first times students don't get to register at the same time as other students????? so while everyone else got to register for the class on the 16th I had to wait until the 21st. no room, not even on the wait list. so after trying over and over to get an app to see a councilor on line I drove down there just to see a sign saying no walk ins for councilor apps today! sigh okay so what should I take for a winter intersession course at mt sac that might help me in the emt class (when I finally get to take it)? disappointed to say the least I have been studying my butt off I have an entire composition book filled page to page with notes and terms that I add to every single night, while studying, since I posted this because I really really want to know my sh@& when I finally get the class?? any advice would be awesome! oh btw they have A&P but I cant take it until I take bio and chem so that's not going to be effective but I could take a medical terminology that they have? idk I just need to take something so I have priority reg next session.
 
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