I agree that access should have been gained. That is why the FD is present on all calls that we run. It really helps out because they are usually there when we get there. They alredy have a pt report for us, and it prevents problems like this one that has been posted. I also agree with Jon in one aspect. Everyone is so sue happy these days. Yes I would rather get sued for a $30 door or window rather than abandonment, but somewhere the law needs to draw the line to help us. Why should our insurance company (the city's) be responsible for a property damage claim when we were called to do a service? If I were put in this situation, I would have kicked in the door, with LEOs present, like you all mentioned eariler CYA. If the town was sued for a $30 property damage, I would have voiced my opinion on how crappy that was. After all the pt called in a complaint.
EMTs Failed to Help Woman in Pennsylvania
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Once I even had to take out a stairway bannister to get a patient out of place. One of those houses designed with not much thought process for emergency access.
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Define needlessly [/b][/quote]
All I'm saying is that I want to be darn sure there is a patient on the other side of the door that needs my help, and that:
1. The county didn't screw up the address, again
2. The resident isn't on the other side of the door with a gun, waiting to shoot the guys breaking into his house
3. The patient Really Really Really can't open the door, and wants / would want us to break it in for them.
I need more info on this, and am suprised to have not heard anything on the county's rumormill / bashing "fourm"
My county (where this happened) has MDC's, where we can see the entire text input by the calltakers, PD and FD dispatchers. We can see exact times, and we can send text messages to the dispatchers as needed.
The county also has a bad habit of messing up street addresses
The crew should have been sure that there wasn't a need for EMS before leaving.
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All I'm saying is that I want to be darn sure there is a patient on the other side of the door that needs my help, and that:
1. The county didn't screw up the address, again
2. The resident isn't on the other side of the door with a gun, waiting to shoot the guys breaking into his house
3. The patient Really Really Really can't open the door, and wants / would want us to break it in for them.
I need more info on this, and am suprised to have not heard anything on the county's rumormill / bashing "fourm"
My county (where this happened) has MDC's, where we can see the entire text input by the calltakers, PD and FD dispatchers. We can see exact times, and we can send text messages to the dispatchers as needed.
The county also has a bad habit of messing up street addresses
The crew should have been sure that there wasn't a need for EMS before leaving.
Jon [/b][/quote]
Poor baby medic. What are we going to do with you, not willing to break things with the toys provided.
