EMT-B online classes in Atlanta

VentMedic said:
There are also online classes for EMT-I and Paramedic.

www.trainingdivision.com
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Really? Online P? Do their patches say "Paramedic - Ya know, in theory, kinda"

Sorry if it sounds mean, but I have never heard of that sort of thing, when people said it I HONESTLY thought they were joking!

As to the difference between online and class based lectures, I've never done online but I'd say there's a good chance of missing some stuff, as when we learn we remember something like 70% of what we do and see, and forget about 70% of stuff we just read or hear.

I don't know if those percentages are right, I think I only read them somewhere, online...
 
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VentMedic said:
There are also online classes for EMT-I and Paramedic.

www.trainingdivision.com
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Paramedic? Now thats a lot of computer time.:P Other than that, as long as they still have hands on part in good facility with good equipment and understanding instructors, why not?
 
Crimson Ghost said:
Paramedic? Now thats a lot of computer time.:P Other than that, as long as they still have hands on part in good facility with good equipment and understanding instructors, why not?
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Interestingly, they require you to be an Intermediate before you're allowed to go onto medic. I am in favor of that to begin with but it makes sense for an online program.

They are training for the I-99 level. I am already an I-85 and our class used the I-99 book, took I-99 tests but our state doesn't let just a few specific things so we had to test at I-85. Who knows, maybe I'll take their I-99 and be able to use my same book! It is pretty inexpensive.
 
VentMedic said:
They've been around for awhile along with the 3 month wunder mills.

Here's another:
http://www.southcoasttraining.com/online_paramedic_distant_learning.aspx
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"One of the most exciting features of this online paramedic program is that each session is recorded and archived. If a student misses a classroom session then they will be required to watch the recorded session that they missed, this is tracked through our course management system for attendance purpose. It is also a great tool for any student to be able to review a lecture for clarification and understanding of content. ":)Thats my favorite part. Is it like that on every online course? Pretty cool featureB)
 
:headdesk: Crimson, you do understand that we're trying to say this is a very BAD idea if you actually want to know what you're doing, and be good at it, right?
 
Sapphyre said:
:headdesk: Crimson, you do understand that we're trying to say this is a very BAD idea if you actually want to know what you're doing, and be good at it, right?
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I'm less convinced that online paramedic is a bad idea. They have online nursing exams and people tend to get upset when certain states don't accept those degrees. I even read about an online Nurse Practitioner program. That's 80% of a doctor!
 
bstone said:
I'm less convinced that online paramedic is a bad idea. They have online nursing exams and people tend to get upset when certain states don't accept those degrees.
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There is only one NLN accredited online entry RN program (Excelsior) left and many states do have strict regulations for its graduates. It is also designed for people who hold another healthcare license.

bstone said:
I even read about an online Nurse Practitioner program. That's 80% of a doctor!
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80% of a doctor? No. NP is usually a Masters degree. At that point, many of the classes can be done online with just the clinicals in person. There are several online Masters programs that qualify for the NP.

A doctor has 4 years of med school post Bachelors or Masters. Then 3 - 7 years of residency and possibly a fellowship of 2 - 4 more years.

I essentially consider the Paramedic program to be the entry level since EMT-B is merely 110 hours. Often the Paramedic program will also spend 2 - 4 weeks reviewing what was covered in the EMT-B. The Paramedic program is also largely skills based. Thus, it is not the best candidate to be online.
 
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VentMedic said:
The Paramedic program is also largely skills based. Thus, it is not the best candidate to be online.
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That's what I was thinking when I first realized that they actually offer these courses online. I think EMT-B is even worse, the only lecture you have in basic is teaching you how to do a skill then you go practice it.
 
Crimson Ghost said:
^_^Well, as far as i understand, they do require 1 week of hands on training(don't know how many hours a day). And althought i do think it might not be enought, if they say it is, then it probably is. Online part is theoretical and i don't see a difference between class lecture and online lecture. For me, there would be less distraction and less gas money.
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Thats scary. You need MUCH more then 1 week of "hands on" training. The amount I had was barely enough and it was hands on every day it seemed
VentMedic said:
There are also online classes for EMT-I and Paramedic.

www.trainingdivision.com
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Thats VERY scary...

Thats like becoming a commercial airline pilot....online

Crimson, we just want you to have some "legitimate" training. You get can all the licenses in the world, but once you get out on the streets, you better know your stuff.
 
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Hockey9019 said:
Thats scary. You need MUCH more then 1 week of "hands on" training. The amount I had was barely enough and it was hands on every day it seemed


Thats VERY scary...
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Actually, 6 days of hands on is at least 48 hours. For a 110 hour EMT-B course that leaves just 62 hours for class and clinicals. That is probably the same for many EMT-B classes regardless of the time it takes you to finish those hours.

One could stretch out that 110 hours to 2 years by going 1 hour/week but it would still be a 110 hour course.
 
When I was in Intermediate school at Lanier Tech, we had a few people test out after 6 months at the basic level, before we started the Intermediate module. These were mostly FF's who just wanted the EMT pay or were required to be EMT by the county.
 
Online Classes in General........ my opinion

For the past 6 years, climbing up throught the ranks of Basic, Intermediate and Paramedic, I have made so many sacrifices of time away from my family and had to forego vacations and other outings because of school. But I would not trade one day of my hands on, classroom, instructor taught knowledge for a whole year of online classes. Also, I would not want a "Cyber Medic" to take care of me or anybody I love. The training cannot be as complete and thorough on line as it is in the classroom. I'm totally against it and can't believe the NREMT or other agencies are allowing it as a legitimate certification program. Just my honest opinion.... from somebody who actually worked for the patch because I wanted it so bad. I "paid my dues" and I'm very proud of it.
 
NREMT3138 said:
For the past 6 years, climbing up throught the ranks of Basic, Intermediate and Paramedic, I have made so many sacrifices of time away from my family and had to forego vacations and other outings because of school. But I would not trade one day of my hands on, classroom, instructor taught knowledge for a whole year of online classes. Also, I would not want a "Cyber Medic" to take care of me or anybody I love. The training cannot be as complete and thorough on line as it is in the classroom. I'm totally against it and can't believe the NREMT or other agencies are allowing it as a legitimate certification program. Just my honest opinion.... from somebody who actually worked for the patch because I wanted it so bad. I "paid my dues" and I'm very proud of it.
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you may have a point in that the NREMT might not allow it. I know there is a new certification push for programs to be accredited by the CAAHEP and other groups. Seemingly the NREMT will require this before letting someone sit for the exams. It could be that these groups doing the online offerings will be short lived once these requirements come into play. We shall see!
 
My idea? Allow lectures to be done online, but all test and quizzes done in person. Then require clinicals to be schedules like normal.

If they pass the course, get the 1500+ clinical hours, get 80%+ on each on-campus test, and pass the NREMT, then honestly, what's the big deal? But like I said... TEST them like normal.

They have the same exact education, just in a different manner. There isn't a single darn book-related thing that you can learn in a class but not online.
 
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Linuss said:
My idea? Allow lectures to be done online, but all test and quizzes done in person. Then require clinicals to be schedules like normal.

If they pass the course, get the 1500+ clinical hours, get 80%+ on each on-campus test, and pass the NREMT, then honestly, what's the big deal? But like I said... TEST them like normal.

They have the same exact education, just in a different manner. There isn't a single darn book-related thing that you can learn in a class but not online.
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I actually think this is the best model. Perhaps requiring them to be in perosn for some lectures but a majority to be done distance. Afterall, most people learn by sitting, reading the book and studying on their own. My Intermediate instructor was absolutely horrible and taught nothing at all! I was completely self taught for the lectures by using the text book and review book.
 
If somebody wants to be in this field of work bad enough, they will find a way to go to a traditional school. I'm a single mom, have a full time job plus volunteer at the rescue squad and I did it. I think online classes is the lazy way out to get a certification that deals with someone's life. Scary.
 
NREMT3138 said:
If somebody wants to be in this field of work bad enough, they will find a way to go to a traditional school. I'm a single mom, have a full time job plus volunteer at the rescue squad and I did it. I think online classes is the lazy way out to get a certification that deals with someone's life. Scary.
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Do you think the same for the online RN and NP programs?
 
bstone said:
you may have a point in that the NREMT might not allow it. I know there is a new certification push for programs to be accredited by the CAAHEP and other groups. Seemingly the NREMT will require this before letting someone sit for the exams. It could be that these groups doing the online offerings will be short lived once these requirements come into play. We shall see!
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That is for the Paramedic and will go into effect 2013.

At this, as long as the program meets the required HOURS, it is okay. That is why college programs and degree should be the norm and not the exception in EMS.
 
bstone said:
Do you think the same for the online RN and NP programs?
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NP is not entry level. To obtain the Masters degree, it is very time consuming and may require well over 1000 hours of clinical time depending on the specialty in addition to over 2 years of class room.

Again, there is only one RN program that is NLN accredited and its graduates face strict regulations in some states and other states may not allow them in at all. The requirement to get in is to have a license as an LVN, Paramedic or RRT. It is not an entry level. As I said before I consider the Paramedic program to be entry level because to say the EMT is the entry level is saying the CNA is the first PROFESSIONAL level of nursing. While both EMTs and CNAs can be considered as professionals, they don't hold the same weight as licensed.
 
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