emtwacker710
Forum Captain
- 263
- 0
- 0
I've been told recently that they are considered by some providers to be an airway obstruction, I've always been taught to let a seizing pt. seize, just move objects away from them.
Bite sticks are like a lot of other things in EMS... they seemed like a good idea at the time... there was no research that showed they were needed or worked... Same thing with MAST Pants and helicopters
Becuase they "seemed like a good idea" lots of places still have them on the required list for stocking rigs... even though they aren't in the protocols anymore. (The left hand doesn't know what the left is doing).
Jon
Cool Rid... I was just using those as examples.Be careful, actually studies did not state they were not needed or worked. The studies showed that PASG did not change the outcome, good or bad (neither would a thoracic surgeon on those cases studied). Helicopters does provide rapid transport for those outside metro areas, and are validated as a good thing ; both if used properly. It is helo's are not needed in downtown areas or where rapid transport is not warranted or needed.
p.s. : watch for the return of PASG. New studies, are validating the return in a different procedure and perimeters. I just attended a PHTLS/IHTLS Instructor up-date, and some new things are being considered with all the recent trauma care that has been performed lately.
R/r 911
Why they sell them? Some idiot bought a lot of them and now are trying to get rid of them. There are enough whackers that buy them. Personally have not seen them for decades, they used to be popular that every EMT would carry in their scissor pouch.
The treatment is attempt to prevent injuries, in other words .. leave them alone and protect them. I have NEVER seen a total lacerated tongue caused by seizures. I have seen fractured teeth, broken dentures caused by poor rescuers placing objects in their mouth.
Some have used a portion of an oral airway for a bite block, but again monitoring the patient.
R/r 911
Not sure why there is such a negative bias towards helicopters these days...
where i am, trip to the trauma center via helicopter is about 15 minutes, instead of 50 minutes on the ground...
yet i see so many who claim they "don't work"...
i can only assume it's due to overuse in more metro areas?
Wow, what a considence:
I was restockign the ambulance (this morning- 3AM after a call) and in the supply room found an old bite stick! It said "seizure stick" and it was in a torn plastic wrap bag. Looked ancient!
Ops Paramedic said:Why they are still being manufactured? Someone is still buying them.
Why they sell them? Some idiot bought a lot of them and now are trying to get rid of them. There are enough whackers that buy them.
R/r 911