Bay City (MI) 15 year old dies after being tased

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Thats right people, the police were supposed to just stand there, and go hands on with this "kid" and possibly get injured. Unfortunately the "kid" died, but he wasn't some saint of a kid who made a mistake. He went after the police and they used a less than lethal weapon on him to stop him. I am curious on the results from the autopsy.

I am a strong supporter in the use of a Taser over going hands on with a subject if possible.

Let me ask any of these anti-Taser people this question. I would say 99% of LEO's that carry a Taser, must be tased during the Taser training. How many LEO's have been killed, or later died from them being tased? Absolutely 0.



BAY CITY (WJRT) -- (03/22/09)--Bay City police say a 15-year-old has died after being Tasered by officers who were trying to break up a fight. Police didn't release his name and say state police are investigating.
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http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=news/local&id=6723040



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BAY CITY -- State police have launched an investigation into the death of a teen whom police Tased.


The 15-year-old died about 3:40 a.m. Sunday after Bay City police used a stun gun to subdue him at an apartment on South Catherine near East John.

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http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2009/03/teed_dies_after_police_use_tas.html
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Witnesses say the teen went after other occupants in the home and police officers. Police then Tasered him, and his reaction led them to immediately call for emergency medical help. Though the teen was vomiting and became unconscious, witnesses say he didn't receive medical attention until an ambulance arrived.
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what medical was he supposed to receive prior to the arrival of EMS?
 
These cops should have a trunk monkey installed! Then they will have medical on hand!
 
I've only seen a few Taser hits, but I've never heard of nausea/vomiting as Taser side effects.

It will be interesting to see the whole story as it comes out.
 
Jon said:
I've only seen a few Taser hits, but I've never heard of nausea/vomiting as Taser side effects.

It will be interesting to see the whole story as it comes out.
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If someone is extremely intoxicated, will that have any effect on it?

I know Taser is a neuromuscular incapacitating device (I think thats the right word...I think...)

It takes control of your muscles in your entire body. So if your drunk, shouldn't have much difference if your sober...I think...

I know when I took the ride, it was...indescribable...like, a leg cramp, all throughout your body. But not really. I'll still take that over OC spray...any day...
 
While we certainly don't know enough about what happened yet, something from the first article quoted struck me...

"He just had a little too much fun and things just got carried away," said Blair Stevenson, a friend of the victim.<snip>

"He had a turnaround -- he realized he had a problem, went to rehab and he was doing good with rehab," said Leonard Ciesielski, the victim's uncle. "They may have used a little excessive force from what I understand."
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I can understand how a relative, who wasn't even at the scene, can believe that the police may have used ecessive force. I don't understand how somebody who had a little too much fun and got carried away, then ends up trying to fight the police can portrayed as turning his life around.
 
Hockey9019 said:
Thats right people, the police were supposed to just stand there, and go hands on with this "kid" and possibly get injured. Unfortunately the "kid" died, but he wasn't some saint of a kid who made a mistake. He went after the police and they used a less than lethal weapon on him to stop him. I am curious on the results from the autopsy.

I am a strong supporter in the use of a Taser over going hands on with a subject if possible.

Let me ask any of these anti-Taser people this question. I would say 99% of LEO's that carry a Taser, must be tased during the Taser training. How many LEO's have been killed, or later died from them being tased? Absolutely 0.
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We have had this debate already. It ended badly. FYI, several PDs have sued Taser International.
 
Well he used to try to take on the Army. Now he just tries to take on the police. You see! He is turning his life around.

The article is missing lots of info. I have had several people tasered and none were vomiting or had nausea. If this part is true, something else may have been going on like a preexisting condition, injuries incurred in the fight not caused by PD and other stuff. If the teen was fighting police, the taser was justified.
 
I wanna know why he died......
 
BLSBoy said:
He stopped breathing.
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Hahaha, To clarify, exodus wants to know what caused him to stop breathing. Exo, you must have learned by now, gotta be very careful how you say what you say around this crowd :P
 
exodus said:
I wanna know why he died......
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Shock. As shock of some sort is the cause of all deaths.

But I to wonder if he had heart trouble, drugs in his system, etc that allowed the tazer to kill him.

As to OP I don't have time to look but it seems about a year ago a cop died while being tazed in training.
 
Suicide. If you fight the cops and you die, that is suicide.

pwn3d
 
AJ Hidell said:
Suicide. If you fight the cops and you die, that is suicide.

pwn3d
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That is, if the cop's actions are warranted (probably was in this case, but we all know there's those overzealous cops out there)
 
medic417 said:
No but you have to get shocked with the defib so you know how your patients feel.:P
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didn't someone die in NJ cause he was shocking a Pt and didn't clear the body, so he ended up shocking his partner?
 
amberdt03 said:
didn't someone die in NJ cause he was shocking a Pt and didn't clear the body, so he ended up shocking his partner?
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Probably. There was a case a couple of years ago where during horseplay someone shocked his partner and they died. The medic was charged with some sort of murder. See horseplay is harmless fun. :rolleyes:
 
medic417 said:
Probably. There was a case a couple of years ago where during horseplay someone shocked his partner and they died. The medic was charged with some sort of murder. See horseplay is harmless fun. :rolleyes:
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yeah thats right, i remember him getting charged with murder. i didn't realized that it involved horseplay.
 
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