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Seeing a silent firefighter? That's such a rare occurrence, you're more likely to watch a unicorn giving birth..
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Then your funding the forum which I use, so I don't care if you tattoo a star of life on your forehead :blink: its all good.
Q:How do you tell the guy you're talking to at the bar is a firefighter?Seeing a silent firefighter? That's such a rare occurrence, you're more likely to watch a unicorn giving birth..
my number one choice " Trained to Save Your ***, Not Kiss it".
Q:How do you tell the guy you're talking to at the bar is a firefighter?
A: Don't worry, he'll tell you.
I honestly never understood the appeal of firefighting and always kind of saw the obsessive devotion many hose monkeys had to the field as amusing rather than annoying. Police I understood, because you get to carry a gun, go on car chases, tackle and cuff people and order them around etc. But firefighting just seems like dirty, dreary manual labor to me. I would just as soon do roofing or cement work for free as be a volunteer firefighter.
God bless people out there who think it's this awesome glamorous heroic job, to the point many even do it for free, but I'll never understand the appeal of it myself. I guess its something you either just "get" or you don't.
It's definitely a manual labor job, but many who choose the profession are coming from far less rewarding manual labor gigs. A firefighter may be doing mostly blue collar work that taxes their bodies EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, but the feeling of making a rescue or saving somebody's belongings trumps any crappy manual labor you may have done before you became a FF. Being the last line of defense against fire is something the fire service shouldn't, and doesn't take lightly.
Used in the wrong context I agree it's unprofessional. However, when push comes to shove I'm going to put my foot down and do what needs to be done.
It's definitely a manual labor job, but many who choose the profession are coming from far less rewarding manual labor gigs. A firefighter may be doing mostly blue collar work that taxes their bodies day after day, but the feeling of making a rescue or saving somebody's belongings trumps any crappy manual labor you may have done before you became a FF. Being the last line of defense against fire is something the fire service shouldn't, and doesn't take lightly.
Fixed that for you.
Even in the busiest urban stations, it's not that busy(anymore).
Being the last line of defense against fire is something the fire service shouldn't, and doesn't take lightly.
It was right the first time.
So the IAFF says(which I am a member of). I'm not going to argue with the public's opinion about what we do. If they REALLY knew...
I'm not bashing it. But anybody in the Fire Service knows we don't tax our bodies day in and day out with fire suppression.
EMS is a different story.
But anybody in the Fire Service knows we don't tax our bodies day in and day out with fire suppression.
EMS is a different story.
So the IAFF says(which I am a member of). I'm not going to argue with the public's opinion about what we do. If they REALLY knew...
I'm not bashing it. But anybody in the Fire Service knows we don't tax our bodies day in and day out with fire suppression.
EMS is a different story.
What about Detroit FD? Or are they an exception?
Are smoke jumpers excluded from that as well?
Just because your city doesn't get a fire everyday, doesn't represent the world. Same for EMS.
It was right the first time.
So the IAFF says(which I am a member of). I'm not going to argue with the public's opinion about what we do. If they REALLY knew...
I'm not bashing it. But anybody in the Fire Service knows we don't tax our bodies day in and day out with fire suppression.
EMS is a different story.
The fire service is a respectful career and I have no problem with firefighters. My Uncle, my Grandpa, my Great Grandpa and my Great Great Grandpa, where all firemen.
The problem is you guys are to good at your job, you did so good at fire prevention there are not enough fires to justify your existence any longer with current staffing. As a result many places use the FD for EMS tier response or even transport. The professions start conflicting and no one likes EMS as it is, so not only do we have to do battle with Nurses and health care side of things, you have to do battle with the IAFF and the fire service. If the IAFF said "fine, we want a piece of the pie, but we recognize EMS as a seperate thing from fire and we are going to advocate for increasing education standards, pay, enforce degrees, use our power to protect and advocate for EMS, and help give it some Independence" Ya I would gladly embrace the fire service. However, that sounds kind of like the opposite of what they do. Fire wants to keep this a vocational job and exploits it to justify there existence and increase revenue.
Almost all of the FFers around here are volunteers. No disability insurance, not workman's comp, no life insurance, no funeral benefits...
I wouldn't mind going through Fire One just for the heck of it, I think I might enjoy it.. -Not to mention, I was told "females aren't good FFers" by a jerkface I used to work with- But as physical as that job is, I don't want to risk hurting myself and having no financial safety net.
The risk to self is just too much compared to EMS. At least with what I'm doing now, I have a little comp incase I get hurt.
How many cops do you know outside of work? Most guys who have been on for more then a year or two are hesitant to admit they are cops. It is to much of a hassle when you bring it up, everyone has a "a-hole cop story" or they want to ask you about a ticket or something.I honestly never understood the appeal of firefighting and always kind of saw the obsessive devotion many hose monkeys had to the field as amusing rather than annoying. Police I understood, because you get to carry a gun, go on car chases, tackle and cuff people and order them around etc. But firefighting just seems like dirty, dreary manual labor to me. I would just as soon do roofing or cement work for free as be a volunteer firefighter.
Are you sure? Around here, if you are on duty as a volunteer, which responding to a call counts, you are covered by insurance. If you are hurt en route to the station or on the fireground, you are covered by health insurance and workmans compAlmost all of the FFers around here are volunteers. No disability insurance, not workman's comp, no life insurance, no funeral benefits...
I wouldn't mind going through Fire One just for the heck of it, I think I might enjoy it.. -Not to mention, I was told "females aren't good FFers" by a jerkface I used to work with- But as physical as that job is, I don't want to risk hurting myself and having no financial safety net.
The risk to self is just too much compared to EMS. At least with what I'm doing now, I have a little comp in case I get hurt.
Are you sure? Around here, if you are on duty as a volunteer, which responding to a call counts, you are covered by insurance. If you are hurt en route to the station or on the fireground, you are covered by health insurance and workmans comp
Fixed that for you.
Even in the busiest urban stations, it's not that busy(anymore).