Asians in EMS

SliceOfLife said:
To show you how ridiculous your original question is "Asains in EMS" I'm sure in China close to 100% of EMS providers are Chinese.
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A better question would be how many african american EMS workers are there in Chinese EMS. How many Jews are there in Chinese EMS? how many Hispanics are in Chinese EMS?

I bet if you find a community that is 10% asian, you probably have a 10% asian demographic in the EMS system.
 
Aidey said:
You sound more judgmental than anyone else in this thread. It is not unusual for humans to seek out people who have similar life experiences to themselves. It is also not unusual for a member of a minority group to ask about the presence of said minority group in a chosen profession. Often, a persons life experiences are based on things like their age, gender, ethnicity and culture.

We know nothing about the background of the OP aside from the fact that they are Chinese. It is very likely that the OP is looking for people with other commonalities besides skin color, and sometimes those commonalities involve looking for people who are the same ethnicity. Skin color and culture are NOT the same thing and I HIGHLY doubt it is just about finding friends that look the same. What would you tell someone who is asking if there are a lot of single mothers in EMS? Or people over 55?
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You win the best the answer of the day award. :)
 
Aidey said:
You sound more judgmental than anyone else in this thread.
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Bingo! Someone finally gets me, I expect more from people. Especially from our own EMS community. See my other arguments with people on this board. Some people here hold themselves to really low moral standards. Or at least they post that way.

Aidey said:
It is not unusual for humans to seek out people who have similar life experiences to themselves.
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Yup. Which is kinda to my point. He will probably find better friends if his criteria is commonality beyond skin color, or ethnicity, religion, etc...

Unless he is a recent immigrant from an eastern country I would wager his experiences are the same as most.

Aidey said:
It is also not unusual for a member of a minority group to ask about the presence of said minority group in a chosen profession.
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To what end? To exclude or include individuals from something? Like friendship or association? What purpose could it possibly serve. The fact that two people share the same physical traits has no bearing on personality or compatibility.

Aidey said:
It is very likely that the OP is looking for people with other commonalities besides skin color
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Could be but that isn't what he was asking. If he wants to amend something he posted then he should.

How does this sound:
"Hi I'm white and looking for other white people to associate with at work" Which is very similar to the OP
homingmissile said:
how many (or how few) fellow Asians I might end up having in my social circle
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or
homingmissile said:
I don't think it helps anyone to pretend complete race-blindnes
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I think it's clear what he is looking for. Sorry I'm just not on board with grouping and categorizing people by things they can't control and I think it lessens us as a society when we do.

To the OP, I'm not race blind, I just don't use your race to judge you as a person. You earn my trust, your earn my respect, you earn my friendship feel free to apply that to your future associations.
 
I think you will find a larger amount of asian EMS where there is a large amount of asian immigrants.

for language reasons.
 
I think you are confusing race and culture. Statistically someone is going to have more in common with another person raised in the same culture, religion or physical locale regardless of race.

And you're kidding me about his experiences are the same as most right? It is presumptuous to assume that Asian Americans have the exact same experiences growing up in the US as any other kid. If they did there wouldn't be serious concerns about racism in the US military. The same can be said for ANY minority group. His question is NO different than a female asking if there are a lot of other women in EMS, or someone asking if there are a lot of gay people.

The OP hasn't talked about judging anyone. He asked a very simple question, based off of a honest assessment of people in EMS. As with most professions, people in EMS tend to hang out with other people in EMS. He didn't say anything about skin color. You're the one who got all hung up on race.

Why are you so convinced that the OP has a negative ulterior motive? Have you considered that he is a 22 year old starting a new career who is probably a little nervous and trying to find out what it is going to be like?
 
I have seen racism first hand and been at the end of it too, it's everywhere and no one is excluded. I don't think that was ever a contested issue. Why do you think his childhood was any different from anyone else? Seriously what did he go through that anyone else didn't? I mean picked on, hazed, teased, beat up, socially tortured that is just standard stuff you go through as a kid everywhere.

If he is nervous about getting into the mix in a system he doesn't know or with strangers then he is on par with everyone else. You think being a majority in the US makes you have less trepidation about starting something new?

I'm a new medic and started with a new company. Talk about being nervous. Some people are nice and other treat you like absolute :censored::censored::censored::censored:. This is EMS, it seems like half of everyone I meet is an :censored::censored::censored::censored::censored::censored::censored:. Burnt-out, lack of patience, hate that you are doing their job for less pay...you name it.

Finding other Asians isn't going to help him. Associating with good people will.
 
Linuss said:
How many midgets are in EMS? How many people with glasses are in EMS? How many red heads are in EMS?


Really, what does it matter? Why make thread as if you NEED to have Asian friends, or other races aren't up to snuff?
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Hey let's not stereotype the people with glasses... :p

Also, see above about associating with good people. Good advice no.matter what you get into, but especially true for cops, fire, and EMS.
 
SliceOfLife said:
I have seen racism first hand and been at the end of it too, it's everywhere and no one is excluded. I don't think that was ever a contested issue. Why do you think his childhood was any different from anyone else? Seriously what did he go through that anyone else didn't? I mean picked on, hazed, teased, beat up, socially tortured that is just standard stuff you go through as a kid everywhere.

If he is nervous about getting into the mix in a system he doesn't know or with strangers then he is on par with everyone else. You think being a majority in the US makes you have less trepidation about starting something new?

I'm a new medic and started with a new company. Talk about being nervous. Some people are nice and other treat you like absolute :censored::censored::censored::censored:. This is EMS, it seems like half of everyone I meet is an :censored::censored::censored::censored::censored::censored::censored:. Burnt-out, lack of patience, hate that you are doing their job for less pay...you name it.

Finding other Asians isn't going to help him. Associating with good people will.
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Wow. Are you that culturally ignorant that you honestly believe what you're saying? You've got to be kidding me.

So every culture is essentially the same as yours? Children were brought up the same way. The same beliefs instilled. The same traditions practiced. No culture is any different. And don't give that "Don't put words into my mouth" crap. That is exactly what you're implying.

A child raised in a household with Hispanic traditions and beliefs will have ENTIRELY different experiences, adversities, and beliefs from each other. For you to they had completely identical childhoods because they were both hazed an beat up is moronic!

They have entire classes in school about how to interact with different cultures and what to expect from different ones, because they are so DIFFERENT from each other!

The OP never once stated he wanted to find only Asian coworkers to hang out with. Never once said Screw white people, I don't like being around y'all. Hell, he never even said he was nervous! That was your assumption!

And how the hell does you being a new medic at a new company relate to any of this at all?!

Either this is a troll post, or you are incredibly ignorant. Wow.
 
Take it down a notch folks.

I'll just be over here in the corner watching should anyone need me.
 
PoeticInjustice said:
Wow. Are you that culturally ignorant that you honestly believe what you're saying? You've got to be kidding me.

So every culture is essentially the same as yours? Children were brought up the same way. The same beliefs instilled. The same traditions practiced. No culture is any different. And don't give that "Don't put words into my mouth" crap. That is exactly what you're implying.

A child raised in a household with Hispanic traditions and beliefs will have ENTIRELY different experiences, adversities, and beliefs from each other. For you to they had completely identical childhoods because they were both hazed an beat up is moronic!

They have entire classes in school about how to interact with different cultures and what to expect from different ones, because they are so DIFFERENT from each other!

The OP never once stated he wanted to find only Asian coworkers to hang out with. Never once said Screw white people, I don't like being around y'all. Hell, he never even said he was nervous! That was your assumption!

And how the hell does you being a new medic at a new company relate to any of this at all?!

Either this is a troll post, or you are incredibly ignorant. Wow.
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Yes cultures are different, did I say they where not? But human problems are the same. Your post isn't without merit but I think you missed the point and should reread, carefully, previous posts. To the part about being a new medic, that was a direct reply to a post from Aidey about starting in EMS, which he alluded to as being the reason the OP is seeking out other Asians in a system where he feels a stranger (a big presumption on Aidy's part), again the reading comprehension thing.
 
Aidey said:
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Why are you so convinced that the OP has a negative ulterior motive? Have you considered that he is a 22 year old starting a new career who is probably a little nervous and trying to find out what it is going to be like?
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I started at 20. I didn't come on to this forum asking how many white males were in EMS. Race/racial sub-group and how many are in your area really has no tangible effect on how your chosen PUBLIC career is going to be.




But then again, that's the double standard in this country. If a middle-class white male tries to do ANYTHING that any other racial, cultural, or socioeconomic subset does, it's considered insensitive, wrong, etc etc. It's wrong, it's a BS double standard, and it needs to be stopped. It IS racism, and it needs not be tolerated.
 
Me, I find the cultural sensitivity training provided by schools and whatnot largely racist itself.

That said, I agree with taking it down a notch. Studies have shown that medical professions are some of the most accepting of different races (which is a misnomer) and cultures.

Black, white, yellow, or Orange, skin color doesn't matter. Skills matter more, at least in the departments I've seen. Racism exists. You don't like it, prove em wrong. That's what's great about the medical field for me. Skills and knowledge matter.
I think racism isn't the problem so much as sexism, at least in EMS.
 
As the leader in unanswered new threads I am an expert about dumb threads. This was not one. The error is in trying to marginalize people by calling their threads dumb.

OP, you read that EMS people tend to socialize with other EMS people. Not necessary, and healthy not to. People who tend to "live EMS" will tend to do that, and it can become destructive and inbred. Make sure your friends are part of the rest of the real world, and don't worry about who's toting the big scissors and stethoscope.

My thoughts about racism will remain my own here, I have a blog and Facebook for that.
 
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