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mrc

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I've been arrested but I have not been convicted. Must I worry about background checks.
 

Jambi

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If you were arrested, then you've been charged with a crime. Odd are the place you're applying to will want to know of you've every been charged or convicted of a crime.
 

nocoderob

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An arrest may or may not show up depending on how in depth the background is. There is a record of your arrest, however.
 

nocoderob

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If you were arrested, then you've been charged with a crime. Odd are the place you're applying to will want to know of you've every been charged or convicted of a crime.

Not necessarily. You can be arrested, investigated, then released with no charges. LE arrests then gives recommendations on charges to a DA which then charges you officially with the crime.

To the OP, not convicted or not charged? Big difference. To say you "have not been convicted" sounds like a charge is pending. Only a lawyer could offer sound advice on the matter.
 
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Schroeder

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As far as I know, my area only cares about convictions. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time is not a crime. Innocent until proven guilty right?
 

mycrofft

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Hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhhahahhhahhahaaaaaaaaaa.......:rofl:
 

shiroun

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As far as I know, my area only cares about convictions. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time is not a crime. Innocent until proven guilty right?

x2.

I was arrested in a store where the backroom had a major drug deal going on, and I had no idea. Everyone in the store was arrested on the spot, brought down to PD. I wasn't charged, and definitely not convincted. It just depends why you were arrested.
 

Medic Tim

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x2.

I was arrested in a store where the backroom had a major drug deal going on, and I had no idea. Everyone in the store was arrested on the spot, brought down to PD. I wasn't charged, and definitely not convincted. It just depends why you were arrested.

were you arrested or detained?

I have seen apps ask for convictions, pending cases or if you were ever arrested or accused of drugs, violent crimes, identity theft, etc, with space to explain.
 

shiroun

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were you arrested or detained?

I have seen apps ask for convictions, pending cases or if you were ever arrested or accused of drugs, violent crimes, identity theft, etc, with space to explain.

Whoops, good point. It was detaining. Never had my rights read.
 
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mrc

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these charges are still against me. im hearing its getting dropped. allegation way to wild plus difficult to prove as well as no history of crime for me. Im going through the process in which its going down in level. I was facing a felony. But if my arrest shows up what happens. Because I'm still putting job hunting on hold
 

Jambi

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Not necessarily. You can be arrested, investigated, then released with no charges. LE arrests then gives recommendations on charges to a DA which then charges you officially with the crime.

To the OP, not convicted or not charged? Big difference. To say you "have not been convicted" sounds like a charge is pending. Only a lawyer could offer sound advice on the matter.

My bad. I should have written, "If you've been charged or convicted with a crime," then, at least on all the apps I've seen, the employer wants to know. The last background I did they wanted to know everything, including expungements.
 

NYMedic828

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What was your crime...
 

Veneficus

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My bad. I should have written, "If you've been charged or convicted with a crime," then, at least on all the apps I've seen, the employer wants to know. The last background I did they wanted to know everything, including expungements.

I find that interesting, if there is an expungement or a record was sealed, they should not be able to verify if you tell them "no" unless you are applying for a security clearance.
 

Jambi

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I find that interesting, if there is an expungement or a record was sealed, they should not be able to verify if you tell them "no" unless you are applying for a security clearance.

It's the most invasive (detailed) background I've done. It's not for a gov security clearance, but I have access to the entire casino.

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FBI and DOJ backgrounds - They want to know tickets, arrests, charges, charges dropped, convictions. The expungements come up, and when they do, they want to know what it was for. You don't have to answer, but you get no job.

names for family, parents, siblings, spouses, children, and and socials for the last 2. References (that they actually check), etc

I only put up with it because of the money. The job is easy and I make 50% more than the average medic in the county. I just work part time in the field now to stay sharp. :beerchug:
 

Veneficus

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It's the most invasive (detailed) background I've done. It's not for a gov security clearance, but I have access to the entire casino.

Hair drug test
7 year employment hx
10 year housing hx
credit check
FBI and DOJ backgrounds - They want to know tickets, arrests, charges, charges dropped, convictions. The expungements come up, and when they do, they want to know what it was for. You don't have to answer, but you get no job.

names for family, parents, siblings, spouses, children, and and socials for the last 2. References (that they actually check), etc

I only put up with it because of the money. The job is easy and I make 50% more than the average medic in the county. I just work part time in the field now to stay sharp. :beerchug:

But how do they check to see if you have an expungement?

In my home state, an expungement even seals an arrest record.
 

Jambi

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The background produces a record showing an expungement.

Because they can find records of expungement, I wonder if it's because the Tribe is a sovereign entity and can access deeper than other institutions.

What I do know is that people that we've tried to hire as EMTs here have been denied jobs because they failed to disclose an expunged record. :unsure:

I guess some of it may just be FUD, but the above has happened.
 

nocoderob

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But how do they check to see if you have an expungement?

In my home state, an expungement even seals an arrest record.

I would think as long as there is a record of it somewhere, it could be found. It may be hard to found out the details but, the record exists. There is no hiding from Big Brother:p
 

bigbaldguy

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One of our former presidents had a criminal charge expunged and they found it. All it takes is one piece of paper that someone forgot to shred. In theory though Vene is right an expunged item should not show up anywhere. All records are supposed to be destroyed.

Sorry I should qualify that with, here in Texas.
 

leoemt

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If you were arrested, then you've been charged with a crime. Odd are the place you're applying to will want to know of you've every been charged or convicted of a crime.


Uh not true. An arrest is NOT a charge. You are arrested based on evidence / facts at the time. It is up to the DA to review the officers report, the evidence / facts the officer presents and then determine if charges are warranted. DA's not Officers charge suspects. Once arrested the DA has 72 hours to charge you or release you.

When I owned my Private Investigation business I did pre-employment background checks for clients (I still do this on the side for a couple of clients). It is AGAINST Federal Law for an employer to deny you employment based SOLELY on your criminal record.

There are a couple of expectations to the law, one of which being healthcare. Due to the level of trust placed on us, we can be denied employment based on background.

In my cop days, I arrested a lot of people who were never charged for whatever reason (were not usually privy to that information). As long as you're honest on your application, the arrest wasn't recent, and is for a minor charge then you MIGHT be fine.

Crimes of violence, sexual crimes, etc are likely going to get you denied.

Your state EMS board would be able to provide you more detailed information
 

Jambi

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Uh not true. An arrest is NOT a charge. You are arrested based on evidence / facts at the time. It is up to the DA to review the officers report, the evidence / facts the officer presents and then determine if charges are warranted. DA's not Officers charge suspects. Once arrested the DA has 72 hours to charge you or release you.

When I owned my Private Investigation business I did pre-employment background checks for clients (I still do this on the side for a couple of clients). It is AGAINST Federal Law for an employer to deny you employment based SOLELY on your criminal record.

There are a couple of expectations to the law, one of which being healthcare. Due to the level of trust placed on us, we can be denied employment based on background.

I cleared up my mistype earlier.

As far as getting DQ'd on back ground, well perhaps one of those exceptions allows for casinos/financial institution? Perhaps there's a title 31 stipulation (money laudering and other junk), or maybe there's a waiver/form/whatever legalese thing that gets signed. Im not sure, and it's not my thing. Meh...
 
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