Army medic gets life in prison

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perhaps a scapegoat?

But if people are going to be charged with crimes in Iraq, Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld should be at the top of the list.
 
Let's try and avoid generalized political statements, please.
 
The Horrors of war can screw some of the best people up. I know some guys who came back but sadly enough it seems they left part of thier humanity on the battle field. It really hurts to see the mark the war leaves on people who fight it.
 
Leahy was acquitted of murder in a separate incident involving the death of another Iraqi in January 2007.

Scapegoat? What about this other incident. Can he really be that unlucky to be charged with murder twice.

Just basing my opinion on whats in the small article.
 
CAOX3 said:
Leahy was acquitted of murder in a separate incident involving the death of another Iraqi in January 2007.

Scapegoat? What about this other incident. Can he really be that unlucky to be charged with murder twice.

Just basing my opinion on whats in the small article.
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I don't doubt that he did kill people. I just wonder about his level of responsibility. as it was said, combat changes people. To survive many have to embrace the very basic animal instincts, striking out at those in a competing social group with indifference to the value of life is part of that.

It goes back to the old argument, is it the private or the general who is responsible. I think the general. Others will disagree. But in the history of the argument, very few minds were ever changed.
 
These were detainees, they werent on the battlefield.
 
CAOX3 said:
These were detainees, they werent on the battlefield.
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Yes but imagine being in a culture where carrying a gun was part of the norm, where you not only will need to kill people but also have the duty and responsibility to kill people. Like it was said, you may need to embrace very basic instincts to get through the experience.
 
CAOX3 said:
These were detainees, they werent on the battlefield.
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Ever been to Iraq?

The entire country was a battlefield at that time. We were sleeping in our body armor on base. There were no safe zones that were not battlefields. Ever been in a prison? Detainees do not stop fighting simply because they are in custody.

It's all about context and perspective, neither of which can you comprehend just from watching CNN.
 
AJ Hidell said:
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It's all about context and perspective, neither of which can you comprehend just from watching CNN.
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You mean CNN doesn't give me all the facts of life?:unsure:
 
AJ Hidell said:
Ever been to Iraq?

The entire country was a battlefield at that time. We were sleeping in our body armor on base. There were no safe zones that were not battlefields. Ever been in a prison? Detainees do not stop fighting simply because they are in custody.

It's all about context and perspective, neither of which can you comprehend just from watching CNN.
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He shot an un armed, blindfolded, handcuffed human being in the back of the head in his jail cell.

Here is the armys statement

There is no excuse!

The four men were handcuffed and blindfolded, then taken out and shot in the head. Two of the killers, acting on instructions from the third, removed the plastic handcuffs and the bloody blindfolds, and shoved the bodies into a canal. Then the three killers left the scene and rejoined their unit. Ho hum.

But now, the three men -- US Army Sgt. John Hatley, Sgt. 1st Class Joseph P. Mayo and Sgt. Michael P. Leahy Jr. -- face charges of


premeditated murder, conspiracy to commit premeditated murder and obstruction of justice

according to an Army statement released last week, as reported in a short AP dispatch carried by the Washington Post
 
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CAn you provide a link to your source of that article?

I believe some people use "I was in the war" as an excuse to break the law, and I highly doubt that he's a scape goat twice. Before someone jumps down my throat, I understand it's a horrible experience, but at what point do we stop making excuses? Not everyone who serves in the army are honor worthy young men and women who do it for the dignity of protecting their nation. Some do it because they have no other future, and others do it just to have the gun.

He deserves to be in jail
 
There are about a thousand articles on the internet now that they have been convited.

I cant even imagine what it is like to go to war. What it must do to you and your family.

I support every troop that is there or has spent time there 100%. This is inexcusable, murder is still murder.

Just a very sad story for everyone involved.
 
CAOX3 said:
There are about a thousand articles on the internet now that they have been convited.

I cant even imagine what it is like to go to war. What it must do to you and your family.

I support every troop that is there or has spent time there 100%. This is inexcusable, murder is still murder.

Just a very sad story for everyone involved.
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Yes, but you posted a specific article. Can you post a link to it? Usually when one wants any sort of credibility, they back up their sources. It looked more like a commentary to me instead of something factual
 
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Sasha said:
Yes, but you posted a specific article. Can you post a link to it? Usually when one wants any sort of credibility, they back up their sources. It looked more like a commentary to me instead of something factual
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Some facts mixed with an anti-war slant. Here is the link where CAOX3 obtained his so-called information.

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=47478

Come on CAOX3!! I don't want to get into political rants about the war in Iraq, but if your going to pass yourself off with some credibility, at least do it from reputable news site and not some anti-war blog. Geez!
 
CAOX3 said:
This is inexcusable, murder is still murder.
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Okay, let's go with that theory.

The persons were being detained for what? Murder.

The penalty for murder is? Death.

Timothy Mc Veigh -- an unarmed and restrained man -- was taken from his prison cell and put to death for murder. We do it all the time in America. So what exactly is the difference here?
 
AJ Hidell said:
Okay, let's go with that theory.

The persons were being detained for what? Murder.

The penalty for murder is? Death.

Timothy Mc Veigh -- an unarmed and restrained man -- was taken from his prison cell and put to death for murder. We do it all the time in America. So what exactly is the difference here?
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Why are you trying to justify it!?
 
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