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good point about insurance coverage, i didnt take that into account until after i posted. and i see what you mean about it being worth the cost to make sure our people are clean, but what does that say about our hiring process? it seems like we should be able to hire individuals with...

ok, after a quick google search it seems that these tests cost between $170-$250. seems like it would be feasible for most local government departments but might get costly for a very large department or large private companies like AMR. a standard 9 panel drug test looks it costs about $15...

i almost feel like youre arguing with me for the sake of arguing. like i already said... -i dont know the exact cost, only that they cost more than the standard drug test they already use (this was from a dept. higher up, it could be wrong but ive heard it from other places as well) -i...

i actually dont know the exact cost and dont think i ever said it wasnt justified. i've just always been under the impression that these tests are expensive (more so than the standard rec drug tests, i know that) which is where the discussion came from in the first place. i dont undertand...

totally agree with this

whoa, first off, the fact that you are insinuating that im using drugs is ridiculous. for the record, im not and never have and completely disagree with their usage. i made the thread not to justify the use of steroids, but to discuss the need for drug testing which is more of a budget issue if...

after working for a private ems company and now an fd, youre absolutely right, its more prevalent in the fd. although i wouldnt necessarily call it a "problem" since their use doesnt conflict with or jeopardize their quality of work (from what ive seen). i also disagree with the side effects...

before getting surgery you might want to look into Active Release Techniques and see if theres a physical therapist in your area thats certified in this type of theraphy.

oh i meant to say some people thought it was a waste of money because their use is not prevalent. especially on the EMS side.

ive definitely noticed that steroid use is becoming more common, especially on the fire side. it seems like its now a disqualifier for most fire departments yet none of them are actually testing for it. i guess theyre just seeing if something comes up in their background/polygraph. im really...

first time posting here although ive been lurking for quite a while. ive been hearing talk thrown around about EMS agencies (public and private) and fire deptartments modeling their pre-employment testing requirements after Pheonix to include a steroid test, as well as random tests during...