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I think from most people I know, they tend to use Phenergan as well.

Need caffeine!

Actually, I have found something better. Here is one where the Nurse is neither a ICU or ER nurse. http://kbn.ky.gov/practice/medscollege.htm

Thank goodness for my Kindle.

You don't think they have standing orders?

Honestly, this is hard for me to believe. What about a good ICU nurse? Or a nurse working in a Pediatric floor? These RN's must have good judgement making skills and medical skills.

I wouldn't consider them haters, you may sometimes see them as "harsh" because they are being critical of a career they care about. Tough love.

Also granted that the majority of Paramedics who had a halfway decent program and actually learned stuff thought it was relatively easy. Most people consider the NREMT a "joke" in regards to its difficulty.

Like you said earlier, you can't take an apple out of the barrel and judge the whole barrel based on that one. Your program is what we strive for, but sadly they aren't a standard practice.

I'm pretty sure in the state of Colorado the EMT-B must be I.V. certified to do some of those things. If the LPN is certified, he/she can do all of the above and I bet more. And LPN's can assess patients, and are especially trained in focused and initial ones. Most of the time they are checked...

Maybe because the fact that such programs exist? And a good amount at that.

Never heard of such a thing.

I'm not sure they surpass the LPN's in that area either.

Many are not, unfortunately.

I hope she gets better soon. Wow, what a day.:cool:

I know your spelling isn't good, but for future reference it is respiratory emergency. Now, on to the pneumonia. Of course the patient could present other symptoms that don't include chest pain, heck, the patient may not even complain of chest pain. Other common symptoms include coughing...

It's worth a shot.

This is where the problem is Are you seriously comparing a 120 hour training course for a 12 month rigorous education?

I've heard their awesome, guess I will have to try one out!

No problem, also, an extra toboggan or two in case they get wet from the snow wouldn't be a bad idea either.