40 students in a class?

For the record, my EMT class started with 150 and we graduated 117. Now we have course that are 200+. The lecture is delivered in a traditional lecture hall style (actually the old operating theater) and then they break the students dowm into small groups for practical education and psychomotor examination. i had no problems with this style of instruction

But then again my english 101 class as freshman had 300+, so nothing phases me in that regard
 
Dont worry. Focus and study. My class started with 35 people, only 13 graduated. The ones that studied did well.
 
titmouse said:
Dont worry. Focus and study. My class started with 35 people, only 13 graduated. The ones that studied did well.
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This is exactly the point.

If you self-study to pass, then the instructor didn't do their job and teach.

They basically charged you and provided no service. How is that even remotely "ok?"

If you came to me for medical advice and I charged you then pointed you to a textbook to figure it out for yourself, would you feel ripped off?
 
Veneficus said:
This is exactly the point.

If you self-study to pass, then the instructor didn't do their job and teach.

They basically charged you and provided no service. How is that even remotely "ok?"

If you came to me for medical advice and I charged you then pointed you to a textbook to figure it out for yourself, would you feel ripped off?
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They would help us on individual basis as well but you had to ask for help and many didn't.
 
I agree to a point, but with a class as simple as EMT, all most students need in order to meet the minimum standards (they are tested upon) is an instructor to point them towards a textbook, certify that they were present in the classroom for a certain amount of time, and facilitate skill development.
If were talking about developing providers, or educating beyond the minimum standards, the classroom and instructors become a place to develop affective domain, to hone assessment and critical thinking skills and to use simulation as a medium of learning.
The former can be completed with a single instructor without many credentials (and a few assistants) and 40 students, the latter requires an educator, more resources and support from several assistants. The question for the OP is whether they want training or education, to become a provider or a technician.
 
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I was talking to my Aunt the other day, who has been a CNA for about 10 years, and she said I should just take a CNA course instead, which is even easier than EMT, less stressful, and the pay is the same amount or even higher in some cases.

Apparently it's also much easier to find a job in it and apparently males are more in demand than females for it since they are stronger.... and not that many males around to hire.
 
some1ne said:
I was talking to my Aunt the other day, who has been a CNA for about 10 years, and she said I should just take a CNA course instead, which is even easier than EMT, less stressful, and the pay is the same amount or even higher in some cases.

Apparently it's also much easier to find a job in it and apparently males are more in demand than females for it since they are stronger.... and not that many males around to hire.
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Yeah, have fun with that. I'd rather not change diapers and roll patients all day.

They're two entirely different jobs, so make sure you know what each job entails before you choose.*

*Unless your choice is based off of which is easier, in which case PLEASE go the CNA route.
 
some1ne said:
I found out the class I was looking into takes up to 40 students. That seems super high to me, no? How can you get a good experience from being in a class of that size? There's no way 1 instructor can actually do much one on one work with 40 students..

Is it just a money grab course by the Hospital???
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MAKE IT WORK!!! Every class that I have been in I have found some kind of fault with. If you're not getting the information you need in class take the initiative to find out the answers yourself.
 
PoeticInjustice said:
Yeah, have fun with that. I'd rather not change diapers and roll patients all day.
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Bleech, foreskin cleaning.. I can handle poop and diapers all day long, but I draw the line at removing penis smegma.

I've taken all my classes at college courses, if a student misses more than two days per semester, they're dropped from the class..
 
some1ne said:
I found out the class I was looking into takes up to 40 students. That seems super high to me, no? How can you get a good experience from being in a class of that size? There's no way 1 instructor can actually do much one on one work with 40 students..

Is it just a money grab course by the Hospital???
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I had a class of 45 at a college in California. It was tuesday/thursday 8-3 and there were two instructors. On the days we had skills, other paramedics would come in and help with each skill station.
 
My EMT class had about 12-15 people, my EMT Intermediate had about 25, and my Paramedic class had around 35-40 to start. By the end, about half were still left.

You won't have a problem with 40 in your EMT class. But here's a little advice... try to instill a "team" atmosphere and come together as a class to help each other. It will help you and anyone else who truly wants to make this a career.

Take care
 
sweetpete said:
By the end, about half were still left.
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:P And how many of those half actually passed? Half? :P Amazing society is still able to actually function considering how many people just don't seem to care about much of anything these days anymore.
 
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Veneficus said:
A high pass rate and old school.

I like it.
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The hospital that runs the school has occupied its current property since 1932. It was founded in 1904 and founded the in house nursing school in 1905. They began offering "first aid" classes in conjunction with the founding of the first first aid squad in the county in 1927 and have been running first aid classes, then cpr classes, then eventually EMT classes ever since. They are one of 4 education sites in the area, but their graduation rate is significantly higher then any other site and agencies send their members from far away. They also use the auditorium to run monthly lectures on trauma topics and other PEMS topics for free CEUs

The surgical theater is actually kinda cool/creepy. The room looks like a stereotypical operating theater, stadium style seating with a round dais in the middle where the table used to be. You can still see the shadow where it was with the drain
 
Bullets said:
The surgical theater is actually kinda cool/creepy. The room looks like a stereotypical operating theater, stadium style seating with a round dais in the middle where the table used to be. You can still see the shadow where it was with the drain
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That would be an EPIC place to film a zombie movie!!
 
Veneficus said:
This is exactly the point.

If you self-study to pass, then the instructor didn't do their job and teach.

They basically charged you and provided no service. How is that even remotely "ok?"

If you came to me for medical advice and I charged you then pointed you to a textbook to figure it out for yourself, would you feel ripped off?
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It boggles my mind that with the material they teach, some people spend hours and days studying, fail the chapter tests, pass them on the second time, and get SIX ATTEMPTS to take the state test. Thats ridiculous. I didnt study outside class and i passed with 90s
 
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