Who would push the 'Safety First' Issue?

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Since the Pike River Mine Blast I have been watching the live daily conference updates with the Mine CEO,
Police Rescue and Mine rescue as to what is being done to help those miners involved and the information being made public.
At today's morning session, I was appauled by the comments and questions asked by an Australian media person.

As Attached:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/ne...isaster/4380806/Boorish-journalist-infuriates

Hopefully the link will work for you in the States???

But if it doesn't, this person basicially said that....
"You wouldn't have New York Firefighters standing around the World Trade Centre (Center),
waiting to be told they shouldn't go in there if lives were in the balance."

I'm pretty sure that if the head of the NYFD knew that the towers were going to collapse and the speed they did,
they would not have let their men/women be deployed into that situation.
Even given how hard that decision would have been to make.

Being a Hero is one thing...blind foolisness is another.
The samples thus far the rescue and mine staff in New Zealand have been getting, means the gas levels are too volatile to send a rescue crew into the mine.
By sending them in, the change of conditions within the mine, may set of another blast, causing more harm to both the 29 men trapped and that of the rescue team.

This same media person then went on to call the Police Superintendent leading this incident a " Local Country Cop" saying that why was he leading this incident instead of Mining staff and Union workers.
What a Wally!
I think the media should have a little better knowledge of how the Emergency Services work, no matter what Country they are reporting in!

I guess the reason I started this thread was to get a few of your thoughts on this subject. Knowing fool well, that all the Emergency Services are taught Safety to yourself first.
What would you do if you were the Incident Officer (Boss) incharge of such an incident?
Would you let your staff go miles into a coal mine with the knowledge that large quanities of volatile gases were present, to recover who knows what?
Of course there is also the thought that some of the rescue staff are family and friends of those under ground.

Enjoynz
 
We dont go anywhere near it until I know what we are dealing with, they can call me what ever they want.
 
As always, it is a risk/benefit analysis.

No I would not send my people into a situation where there was every likelyhood they would be hurt or killed and no likelyhood of actually helping.

I think that in the post Sept 11 world, many emergency responders were quick to embrace the public perception of them as all powerful heroes.

You know, "risking mine saving yours" mentality. They gave no thought as to what they were actually setting themselves up for in terms of demands.

Now for all the good will and hero worship they are expected to throw their lives away for some fantasyland "walk into hell and put out the fire" type responses.

There is some level of risk in rescue/fire/EMS operations. The idea that if everyone plays safe nobody will get hurt is sort of unrealistic as well. It is almost like being a soldier and not expecting to get hurt in a war.

Just my thoughts.
 
Well, in any EMS class the instructors gonna keep saying scene safety. Most people would judt thing, Weapons or combative person etc, but, to me it means, general safety on my scene, if theres power lines down, do you call that a safe scene? i dont. i agree with CAOX3, I might go into an "unsafe" scene, but i will have to know what i m dealing with and what the safety hazard is.
 
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Well, in any EMS class the instructors gonna keep saying scene safety. Most people would judt thing, Weapons or combative person etc, but, to me it means, general safety on my scene, if theres power lines down, do you call that a safe scene? i dont. i agree with CAOX3, I might go into an "unsafe" scene, but i will have to know what i m dealing with and what the safety hazard is.
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I agree completely my life is what means the most to me, the next is my partners. If i know why the scene is unsafe, then depending on what that is ill go in or not. But if I get a call that has a gsw( depends on what kind, if its hunting accidents then id go in), assault, knife wounds....I would not go in until the police got there. Even after taking all these precautions, in the real world we are still everyday closer to danger , but having a small safety net is good.
 
R.i.p.

After typing this thread yesterday, there was another news report not long after,
to say that there had been another blast in the mine yesterday afternoon, much greater than the first.
The rescue team and staff leading this incident have informed the families that no-one would have survived this.:sad:
It is truly a black day for New Zealand.
It does go to show though, that the call that was made by the Incident Officer, that it was too dangerous to send in a rescue team, was very real.

Thank you for those that have posted thus far, please keep the posts coming!

Enjoynz
 
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