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Not many ECMO transports these days as our facility doesn't do ECMO, we transfer those to another nearby tertiary facility. Being a dedicated Neo transport team, we do an average of 25-30 neo transports / month. I'd have to get back to you on the total number of 23 week's though. Please tell me specifically what expertise is needed from the RN or Perfusionist? Honestly it comes down to credentialing and standing guidelines, regardless of the professional. If the medical director provides the appropriate credentialing through hands on training, appropriate education, and direct patient care exposure, why do we have to fall back to the antiquated "I'm a RN" or "you're just a Paramedic"? Instead of arm chair quarterbacking, why not let the actual MD responsible for the delivery of care make the decisions? Who are you to judge?

I wasn't armchair quarterbacking. There are certain aspects of critical care which deserves more than just a take my word for things. You don't seem to like to be questioned about specifics so you probably won't like my next few questions.

Is the LTV 1200 your neonatal transport ventilator since you are part of a dedicated neonatal transport team?

Why do you assume ECMO is only for neonates? Adult ECMO is also mobile and is done on CCTs. When you did do ECMO transports since that is what I get from your post, was it only you and the other Paramedic with a driver?

Why do you assume the ICU staff who may have been caring for the patient for several hours or even days will know nothing about the patient and you seem to not want to take any advice from them? The "its my patient now" stuff may work in the field but you will find that the ICU staff might just provide some useful information. Also, the ICU physician can intervene and call for a different truck or put his staff on the truck if he or she feels you are not competent which also includes acting like a jerk in their ICU.
 
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I wasn't armchair quarterbacking. There are certain aspects of critical care which deserves more than just a take my word for things. You don't seem to like to be questioned about specifics so you probably won't like my next few questions.

Is the LTV 1200 your neonatal transport ventilator since you are part of a dedicated neonatal transport team?

Nope. We use the Crossvent 2+ and 2i on our ground and flight isolettes.

Why do you assume ECMO is only for neonates? Adult ECMO is also mobile and is done on CCTs. When you did do ECMO transports since that is what I get from your post, was it only you and the other Paramedic with a driver?

No assumptions here, only speculated perceptions from you my friend. I am well aware of the ECMO process and it's advantages to the various populations. The previous program that I performed ECMO with used a variety of crew configuration dependent on the patient age and team responding. It was usually a Paramedic, an RN or NNP, an RT (if needed), and a perfusionist.

Why do you assume the ICU staff who may have been caring for the patient for several hours or even days will know nothing about the patient and you seem to not want to take any advice from them? The "its my patient now" stuff may work in the field but you will find that the ICU staff might just provide some useful information. Also, the ICU physician can intervene and call for a different truck or put his staff on the truck if he or she feels you are not competent which also includes acting like a jerk in their ICU.

Again, no assumptions here. The reality at the end of the day is when you service over 40 tertiary medical facilities with ICU's, there usually is not a continuity of understanding of the transport crew's equipment, especially when it comes to agency and per diem RN's that may only have limited familiarity with that location. While the transport crews do try to educate, you are talking a huge educational learning curve. 40+ hospitals, hundreds of EMS agencies, 5 different air medical agencies, 3 medical schools, and an ungodly number of staffing agencies quickly equates to a potential problem without communication and accountability.

I really believe you are splitting hairs on this topic as I am only making the assertion that I check and double check all of my diagnostic and intervention equipment. There is a reason why I have the exposure and experienced gained over the last decade in critical care medicine. Part of it is opportunity, but a lot is collaboration and trust. Here in Houston, there is a level of trust, faith, organization, experience, education, and professionalism among several high class agencies. I realize that is not the case nationwide and not something that is experienced by all ICU staff in many locations. Perhaps it is a unique environment, maybe it's a fluke. I have my opinion, you have yours. It's nothing more than that, why make it into more? Let's agree to disagree and get back on topic to help the OP out with his original inquiry.
 
Again, no assumptions here. The reality at the end of the day is when you service over 40 tertiary medical facilities with ICU's, there usually is not a continuity of understanding of the transport crew's equipment, especially when it comes to agency and per diem RN's that may only have limited familiarity with that location. While the transport crews do try to educate, you are talking a huge educational learning curve. 40+ hospitals, hundreds of EMS agencies, 5 different air medical agencies, 3 medical schools, and an ungodly number of staffing agencies quickly equates to a potential problem without communication and accountability.

I think you are missing the point. Just because the RN caring for the ICU patient is from an agency or PRN does not mean they do not know the patient. You need to also listen to what they know and don't assume your transport equipment or transport is unfamiliar to all. Nor should you assume you know it all and that the RNs don't. Don't try to preach professionalism with that attitude. You can earn a lot more trust if you actually listen to the report and also the suggestions made by the staff caring for the patient. You might actually learn a few things which the patient could benefit from. Just because a hospital has requested a patient to be transferred does not mean the staff is stupid or incompetent. There are many reasons for a transfer which includes ECMO or other specialized services. If you are on a dedicated neonatal team you should know this. Level 3 nurseries have very competent staff but may not offer ECMO. That does not make them any less of a professional.

Believe it or not but we also have many different hospitals including large teaching ones and med schools here in the NW part of the US. Our neonatal teams are well respected and they don't feel the need to insult the staff at the sending hospitals.
 
Anyone else signing up for July CCEMTP at UMBC? or have feedback regarding it (that have actually taken the course)
 
Also, I am looking into couchsurfing.org Hopefully I do not end up in someones meat locker. If anyone wants to pitch in on a very cheap place together or, even better, knows of a reliable couch to surf for 2 weeks near the UMBC, let me know.
 
Got the AAOS UMBC critical care book the mail today... 1034 pages. A lot bigger than I imagined for a 2 week course. That, plus the flight nurse ASTNA book I got, which is 1271 pages.... Guess I will be reading a lot! :wacko:
 
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